From rjohnson64@yahoo.com Thu Jun 19 19:52:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 17307 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jun 2003 19:52:57 -0000 Received: from web10507.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.130.157) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 19:52:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20030619195157.62469.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.28.233.7] by web10507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:51:57 PDT Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:51:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Reply-To: RJohnson64@yahoo.com To: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Iowa-dx] Welcome to the list!! Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: WOW!! Response has been great to the idea of a discussion list. There have been a number of folks who have joined, and I hope that there can be a series of spirited discussions. I would suggest that everyone make a simple introductory post so that we know who is on the list. I'm pretty confident that we all know each other at this point, but I could be wrong. In any case, it is good to know who is participating. I'm Rick Johnson, and I'm in Des Moines County (Burlington). For those who don't know I'm also the current secretary of the state Green Party and, at least for now, co-moderator of this list. I'm going to post a few discussion starters. If any of them sound good feel free to run with them, or offer other ideas for us to consider. Again, welcome!! Rick ===== RJohnson64 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From rjohnson64@yahoo.com Thu Jun 19 20:00:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 17906 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jun 2003 20:00:04 -0000 Received: from web10508.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.130.158) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 20:00:04 -0000 Message-ID: <20030619195902.15894.qmail@web10508.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.28.233.7] by web10508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:59:02 PDT Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:59:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Reply-To: RJohnson64@yahoo.com To: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Iowa-dx] Dissent within the Progressive Movement Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I just read a really good article that raised a question about dissent within the progressive movement. For those of you who subscribe to the work list, we just had an example of how dissent can enter into what seemed to be a mundane discussion. How do we propose to handle the issue of dissent within our ranks? We are all passionate about issues that are near and dear to us, otherwise we wouldn't be activists for those issues. Many of us are members of other, issue-based groups. Not all of these groups would subscribe to the 10 principles that we as a Green Party have adopted. How can we, as Greens, balance the tension that arises when a group that may not subscribe to our core views brings forward an otherwise worthy idea and solicits our support for it? Can we ally ourselves with a group that is, for example, not specifically "non-violent" and remain true to our principles? Can we stand on our principles and refrain from supporting worthy proposals simply because of who is organizing/sponsoring them? Rick ===== RJohnson64 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From rjohnson64@yahoo.com Thu Jun 19 20:06:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 18201 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jun 2003 20:06:06 -0000 Received: from web10507.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.130.157) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 20:06:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20030619200505.64542.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.28.233.7] by web10507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:05:05 PDT Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:05:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Reply-To: RJohnson64@yahoo.com To: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Iowa-dx] To be Democrat or not to be...that is the question Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I think that all of us would agree that the Bush Administration is harming this country in a myriad of ways, and that it is important to stand against their efforts whenever possible. However, I think we would all agree that there is not a consensus in the Green Party on how to best do this. One camp would have us support a progressive Democrat in the primaries, and perhaps hold our nose and support ANY Democrat in the general election, just so we can get Bush out of office. Another camp would have us maintain our separation from the Democrats and run our own candidate in an aggressive campaign, even if our drawing of the progressive vote might tip the scale in favor of Bush's re-election. There are hot feelings on both sides, and both sides make strong arguments for their positions. What are your thoughts? Should we do everything possible to get Bush out of office, even if that means supporting a corporate Democrat? Should we stand on the principles that brought us together as Greens in the first place, even if that means 4 more years of Bush? is there a middle ground that could forge a strong consensus viewpoint? Can we be a Green-Democrat in the primaries and still come back into the fold if a corporate Democrat wins the nomination? What are the stakes, and what's at risk in both instances? Rick ===== RJohnson64 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Thu Jun 19 20:25:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 19505 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jun 2003 20:25:39 -0000 Received: from night.its.uiowa.edu (128.255.56.106) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 20:25:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (webmail1-maint.its.uiowa.edu [128.255.56.153]) by night.its.uiowa.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/ns-mx-1.14) with ESMTP id h5JKOXLl072080 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:24:33 -0500 Received: from dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu (dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu [128.255.61.101]) by webmail1.its.uiowa.edu (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:24:33 -0500 Message-ID: <1056054273.3ef21c0166427@webmail1.its.uiowa.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:24:33 -0500 From: hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu To: iowa-dx@gp-us.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-MOQ1056054273f5d73e3becc74d010be20a6b9a33ef5f" User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 128.255.61.101 Subject: [Iowa-dx] Fwd: [IPPN] Summer Independent Politics News Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This message is in MIME format. ---MOQ1056054273f5d73e3becc74d010be20a6b9a33ef5f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ok, let's see if this works.... The Independent Progressive POlitics Network is an umbrella organiztion of political organizations and parties. The Iowa City Green PArty joined a long time ago, and veen though we didn't renew our dues (no problem with the organization, we just didn't have the money), we still get their announcements. Here's something for your reading pleasure... ----- Forwarded message from Ted Glick ----- Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:43:52 -0400 From: Ted Glick Reply-To: indpol@igc.org Subject: [IPPN] Summer Independent Politics News To: ippn-announce@topica.com Friends, A few hours ago the Summer issue of Independent Politics News was mailed out to our members, subscribers and recent contributors. If you'd like a free sample copy, or if you'd like to order a batch of them (we ask for .50/issue), let me know. I know I may not be objective about it, but I feel very good about this issue. It's a 20-pager, with a good mix of articles, among them: IPPN to Gather in Ann Arbor UFPJ Takes Big Leap Forward U.S. Labor Against the War U.S. Public Rejects the Chickenhawks To Be Anti-Empire, Start in Your Neighborhood Which Way for the Peace Movement? A Green Party Presidential Campaign/2004? (a dozen different points of view on this subject) Peace and Freedom Party Back on the Ballot Save Our Democracy: A Call to Action Green Tide Sweeps Into New Paltz Lobbying for Reparations Vieques Celebrates the Navy's Departure FLOC and Immigrant Rights Groups on the Move Remembering Two Freedom Warriors Jefferson Was Right and more! Here's my little, "From the Editor" piece to give you a small taste of the flavor of the issue: IPPN will be holding its sixth national summit/conference about three weeks after this issue of Independent Politics News goes out in the mail. It promises to be an interesting, stimulating and positive weekend, about which more information can be found on this page. We hope many of our readers who haven't yet decided to come will make some last-minute plans to do so! Call us at 973- 338-5398 or email us at indpol@igc.org. As the articles in this issue demonstrate, we're meeting at a critical time. On one side is the on-going reality of an over-the-top Bush Administration supported in many respects by the dominant forces in the Democratic Party. On the other hand, the resistance movement which did itself proud prior to the Iraq war is very much alive and well. The recent UFPJ national conference in Chicago is a particularly significant indicator of that. The next 16 months are a crucial time period for us, for the American people and for the people of the world. At Ann Arbor July 11-13 we will be deliberating as to how IPPN and the broader independent progressive movement can be as effective as possible during this time. Many of the articles in this issue are related to that question. Karl Marx once said, "History moves with the speed of communication." Given the ability for worldwide, near-instant communication via the internet, much can change in 16 months. Let's be about it! Finally, congratulations to George Friday! George was elected to the national Steering Committee of United for Peace and Justice, representing IPPN, at its Chicago conference two weeks ago. On the first steering committee conference call a couple of days ago George, along with Bob Wing, Leslie Cagan and Bill Fletcher, were elected as national co-chairs of UFPJ. We hope to hear from many more of you about your interest in attending our Ann Arbor conference! Ted Glick [This message sent using the IPPN Announce e-mail list. 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(128.255.56.107) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 22:02:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (webmail1-maint.its.uiowa.edu [128.255.56.153]) by day.its.uiowa.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/ns-mx-1.14) with ESMTP id h5JM1QRn016904; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:01:27 -0500 Received: from dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu (dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu [128.255.61.101]) by webmail1.its.uiowa.edu (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:01:26 -0500 Message-ID: <1056060086.3ef232b6dd1a4@webmail1.its.uiowa.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:01:26 -0500 From: hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu To: iowa-dx@gp-us.org, RJohnson64@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 128.255.61.101 Subject: [Iowa-dx] Discussion List Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear List Manager, I sent something to the dx list, but haven't seen it come across. I was able to go intot eh archives and noticed several messages from you - apparently, I am not getting anything. I checked my setting and it looks "normal." IS there something that needs to be changed (I already tried re-subscribing and it told me aI was subscribed)? IOr is it a Dem conspiracy? Tree Hugging Conspiracy Person From olsoer01@luther.edu Thu Jun 19 22:14:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 26061 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jun 2003 22:14:31 -0000 Received: from mail.luther.edu (192.203.196.21) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 22:14:31 -0000 Received: from luther.edu (webmail.luther.edu [192.203.196.52]) by mail.luther.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h5J9vob07586 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:57:50 +0600 Received: from 216.51.196.53 (SquirrelMail authenticated user olsoer01) by webmail.luther.edu with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:10:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <29205.216.51.196.53.1056060642.squirrel@webmail.luther.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:10:42 -0500 (CDT) From: To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamScore: sss Subject: [Iowa-dx] Greetings! Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: My name is Erik Olson. I'm an undergraduate student at Luther College in Decorah, Iowa. I'm majoring in history and political science, with a minor in secondary education. While living in Decorah, I have become involved with the Decorah Peaceworks group and have served as a co-chair for the Northeast Iowa Green Party. I am employed at the Oneota Food Cooperative. In my two years at Luther I've been involved with a number of student organizations, including the Student Diversity Action Coalition, Campus Greens, Environmental Concerns, and GLBTA. In addition, I was fortunate enough this year to serve as my residence hall's vice president, and thus, as a member of the college student senate. Student senate capped of its year by passing a proposal calling for instant runoff voting to be used in all senate elections, which we implemented this spring. Also, the senante endorsed our administration's proposal to the Board of Regents to extend full domestic partnership benefits for GLBT faculty/staff couples. Many Greens, including myself, have been elected (or reelected) to serve as senators for this coming school year. Within the Iowa Green Party, I have served as an alternate delegate from the NEIGP as well as the Iowa delegate to the national party. I attended last year's convention in Philadelphia and will be attending this year's convention in DC. Peace, Erik Olson http://students.luther.edu/~olsoer01 From hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Fri Jun 20 01:10:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 3368 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jun 2003 01:10:54 -0000 Received: from day.its.uiowa.edu (128.255.56.107) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 01:10:54 -0000 Received: from localhost (webmail1-maint.its.uiowa.edu [128.255.56.153]) by day.its.uiowa.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/ns-mx-1.14) with ESMTP id h5K19rRn015692 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:09:53 -0500 Received: from dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu (dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu [128.255.61.101]) by webmail1.its.uiowa.edu (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:09:53 -0500 Message-ID: <1056071393.3ef25ee1284a5@webmail1.its.uiowa.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:09:53 -0500 From: hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu To: iowa-dx@gp-us.org Subject: Re: [Iowa-dx] Welcome to the list!! References: <20030619195157.62469.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030619195157.62469.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 128.255.61.101 Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Well, I should have kept going through my e-mail, because I did get your messages. Thank you, Rick for getting this started and taking on the job of list moderator. I'm really glad, because I have now about a dozen articles/comments from various Greens of varying viewpoints on a 2004 presidential race that I've been waiting to post somewhere! I'll try to go through an dweed out the obsolete ones and not send them all at once. You will see that Greens throughout the country are discussing the sames things as people here, with similar viewpoints being expressed. BY way of introduction, my name is Holly Hart (if you look me up on Google, you'll find I have my own calendar ...). I live in Iowa City, and work as a producer for the local UI public radio stations (WSUI and KSUI). I have degrees in music from Coe College and the UI, and have worked as a pianist and repetiteur (coach-accompanist for opera singers) and in theatre bands. While in the pit bands for "Cabaret" and Arthur Miller's obscure play "The American Clock," I was amazed at how similar these theatre pieces were to current events ("American Clock" is set in the 1930's, "Cabaret" in pre-Nazi Germany - you can imagine). In 1996, I got involved with the newly-forming Iowa City Green Party (now the Johnson County Green Party after we annexed Coralville and Tiffin), after helping collect petitions to get Ralph Nader on the Iowa ballot. In 2000, I was coordinator for the Iowa Green Party's first-and-probably-last-ever presidential mail-in ballot, and the petition drive for get Nader on the 2000 ballot. Ericka Dana and I were the two statewide coordinators for the Nader campaign. I've held various offices in both Johnson County and Iowa Green Parties, including state secretary and co-chair, and have worked as a campaign volutneer on several local campaigns. Currently, I'm the secretary for the Johnson County Green Party, and participate in the national platform, media and "brpp" (bylaws, rules, policies and procedures) committees. In 2002, I was Jay Robinson's running mate for governor and lt. governor of Iowa. We didn't win, so I still live in Iowa City. Other fun stuff: I'm on the Board of Directors of Uptown Bill's Small Mall (the best politically correct coffee in town); and the advisory board of Musick's Feast (early music ensemble that raises funds for hunger relief). I am also a member of People for Justice in Palestine, IC- BORDC (trying to get the city to adopt an anti-Patriot Act resolution), transportation working group of FAIR! (local politics modelled after Progressive Dane), Iowa Socialist Party and the local chapter of the Labor Party. Again, thank you Rick, for setting up this discussion list, especailly as the 2004 campaign season is underway! Holly Hart From hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Fri Jun 20 15:28:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 16794 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jun 2003 15:28:43 -0000 Received: from night.its.uiowa.edu (128.255.56.106) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 15:28:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (webmail2-maint.its.uiowa.edu [128.255.56.154]) by night.its.uiowa.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/ns-mx-1.14) with ESMTP id h5KFReLl020272 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:27:41 -0500 Received: from dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu (dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu [128.255.61.101]) by webmail2.its.uiowa.edu (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:27:40 -0500 Message-ID: <1056122860.3ef327eceb260@webmail2.its.uiowa.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:27:40 -0500 From: hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu To: iowa-dx@gp-us.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 128.255.61.101 Subject: [Iowa-dx] Fwd: Doug Ireland on the 2004 Elections Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: OK, here is the piece du jour. Forwarding from David Mcreynolds, and as he says, this article and others I'd like to send don't (necessarily) reflect my own opinion. They do contain viewpoints and ideas I think are worthwhile or important. I'm forwarding this because it reflects one of the basic strategies of Green Party electoral focus, and something people can lose sight of in the midst of a presidential campaign season. Holly ----- Forwarded message from DavidMcR@aol.com ----- Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 00:06:00 EDT From: DavidMcR@aol.com Reply-To: DavidMcR@aol.com Subject: Doug Ireland on the 2004 Elections To: socialistsunmoderated@debs.pinko.net As always, comrades, this is sent for information, not because it is my position. David << A Modest Proposal Progressives Should Bypass the 2004 Presidential Campaign and Create an Influential Electoral Structure by Doug Ireland June 16, 2003 I never tire of repeating Gore Vidal's pungent diagnosis that "America has elections instead of politics." That's never been truer than at this moment in our history. So here's my modest proposal: The left-progressive elements within the Democratic Party should bypass the 2004 presidential campaign. Rather than engaging in the quadrennial charade of spending time, money and energy on a flawed "progressive," ego-trip candidacy that will leave no institutional residue behind, lefties should pump those resources into the tough, long-term organizing job of creating a grassroots-supported structure to reverse what the late Paul Wellstone used to call "the hostile takeover of the Democratic Party" by opportunists in thrall to Corporate America. At this point it looks like Kucinich's electoral performance might be embarrassing to the Left. The past insurgent presidential candidacies of that old fraud Jesse Jackson (who wound up as an apologist for the DLC-style triangulations of Bill Clinton) and Jerry Brown (now drifting rightward as Mayor of Oakland, where he governs on an agenda tailored to that of the business interests) both failed to leave any organizational basis for continuing the fight once their candidacies were over. Things won't be any different this year. Howard Dean, around whom many progressives -- led by the politically illiterate Hollywood liberals -- have rallied in their despair over the Republican-Lite me-too-isms of the frontrunners, is, by his own admission, hostile to the left wing of his party. "I really have a healthy mistrust of the Left as well as the Right," he said under the probing questioning of The Nation's David Corn in a revealing interview published March 31. And, Dean added, "My M.O. has been to be in the middle." Dennis Kucinich is a genuine left-populist, but despite his recent election-year conversion into a defender of a woman's right to an abortion, dour Dennis is hobbled by his past performance as co-chair of the House Right-to-Life caucus. He also insists on cleaving to the dangerous, anti-rational, New Age voodoo fantasies of his guru, Marianne Williamson, going so far as to organize a "peace conference" with her at the start of his campaign (for a dissection of Williamson's frightening views, see Wendy Kaminer's book, Sleeping With Extraterrestrials). At this point it looks like Kucinich's electoral performance might be embarrassing to the Left; in the latest Iowa poll, taken for KCII-TV and released June 6, he's still at just 1 percent, despite weeks of campaigning there. Moreover, it's an open secret that Kucinich's presidential candidacy will terminate in March 2004, which is the deadline for filing for re-election to his House seat. So he won't even be present as a candidate to inject content into the predictably soporific national Democratic convention in Boston in 2004. And what is Kucinich building post-candidacy? As far as I can tell, there's nothing in his campaign plan. Should organizing stop just so Kucinich can go back to Ohio and continue to collect his Congressional paycheck? The Democratic party Left should absorb the political history lesson from the takeover of the Republican Party by the Reagan-Goldwater brand of reactionary ideological conservatism, whose ultimate triumph was sealed by the installation of George W. Bush and Karl Rove in the White House. The hard-right conservatives won control of the GOP partly by being unafraid to run primaries to punish or evict so-called "moderates," and sometimes by running independent candidacies against them (as New York's Conservative Party did so effectively, even electing one of their own -- Bill Buckley's brother James -- to the U.S. Senate seat of the late "liberal" GOPer Jacob Javits). The Democratic Leadership Council wasn't afraid to support primary fights, and the DLC's carrot-and-stick approach helped them corral the support of a raft of scaredy-cat incumbents whose natural inclination to scuttle away from left-liberalism (and thus harvest corporate campaign cash) was accelerated by the prospect of securing a place on the DLC's approval list. Democratic Left progressives should create a structure that combines the most effective tactics of the DLC and Christian Coalition models: Candidate recruitment, unambiguous ideological content at the top, along with coordinated fundraising (DLC) and a grassroots voter education and mobilization effort with the creation of a donor base at the bottom (Christian Coalition). The problem is that, so far, nobody seems willing to engage in the hard, long-term work needed to build or finance such a primary-fighting structure. I doubt that in the current political context one can build such an operation without the labor movement. But the national labor leadership is on the defensive in the Bush era more than ever before. It faces a declining membership and hence declining funds, as America's industrial base has evaporated. Unions are also suffering the disastrous consequences of labor's failure to educate its members in politics during the Meany-Kirkland decades of AFL-CIO stasis; half of the unions' members now vote Republican. And finally, the labor leadership won't put its remaining muscle and money behind anything they can't control. In general, the leadership is afraid of a labor-citizen coalition in which the citizen component could gain the upper hand. One can see this clearly in the labor-backed Working Families Party in New York, one of the few states that permits party cross-endorsements. The narrow, bread-and-butter legislative agendas of the labor leaders who control and fund the party dominates its endorsement process, and there's been a serious failure to try to build the WFP's civil-society, non-labor component. The result? The WFP has become little more than an adjunct of the Democratic party instead of an independent electoral pressure group. In too many cases it has endorsed trimmers, hacks and people who would not be considered in any serious way "progressives" (including some candidates who have accepted Conservative party endorsement). There's another problem: the way in which, for a variety of historical reasons, progressive politics in this country evolved into single-issue politics. This has led to the establishment of largely Washington-based bureaucracies, characterized by jealousy and turf-paranoia, the husbanding of direct-mail lists with Chekist-like secrecy, and a refusal to participate in the real-world, bottom-up construction of political/electoral coalitions (except for occasional letterheads and press releases on this or that issue). Given that the elements that could mobilize and sustain a serious electoral Left have been atomized, and labor leadership balks at jeopardizing its relationship with Democratic incumbents, it's hard to see how to coagulate the critical mass necessary to build the kind of electoral weapon I'm suggesting. Consider three recent attempts by liberal Democrats to address the party's crisis. The "Take Back America" Conference, organized by the Campaign for America's Future last week, was a PR exercise and a feel-good rally for its participants that allowed liberals to vent their spleen at the DLC without proposing or working toward concrete organizational initiatives and alternatives of the kind I've described. One liberal Democratic strategist who attended called it a "nothingburger" that will leave no trace on the electoral picture a few months hence. Labor is concentrating its efforts on a new organization headed by former AFL-CIO political director Steve Rosenthal -- a boondoggle that reinvents the wheel by limiting itself to voter registration and get-out-the-vote efforts (largely content-free). It does nothing to challenge the armlock the dominant Clintonite-DLC-opportunist Democratic wing has on the party's apparatus (Rosenthal's operation was designed primarily as a gimmick to allow labor to get around the national ban on soft money, and is already disabled by the withdrawal of black and Latino labor elements fearful of losing what little financial patronage they already have from the AFL-CIO's 16th Street headquarters). And the just-launched American Majority Institute is headed by one of the chief Clinton triangulators, former White house chief of staff John Podesta, who was hip-deep in the 1996 campaign finance scandals as the chap in charge of filling political contracts for fat-cat influence-buyers (a process he continues to defend to this day as ethically pristine). No lefties need apply. The prospects for left-progressive electoral politics will be not rosy, but black as night unless a primary-fighting effort of the kind I've suggested becomes reality. In its absence, we're in for a mighty long period of reactionary Republican dominance that will be fundamentally unchallenged by the "opposition" party, which nowadays amounts to little more than an incumbent protection racket. It's time to put politics back into our elections. The Left needs to focus its resources on a new electoral structure built on the ground from the bottom up. Otherwise progressives will continue to play an illusory role, supporting a doomed Democratic candidate with no hope of nomination in a 2004 election whose outcome -- the re-election of George W. Bush -- is not at this point seriously in doubt. Doug Ireland is a New York-based media critic and commentator. This article first appeared in Tom Paine.com (www.tompaine.com) >> ----- End forwarded message ----- From lkorr@gmx.co.uk Fri Jun 20 17:17:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org Received: (qmail 25435 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jun 2003 17:17:58 -0000 Received: from mail.gmx.de (HELO mail.gmx.net) (213.165.64.20) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 17:17:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 25875 invoked by uid 65534); 20 Jun 2003 17:16:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO oemcomputer) (209.152.125.245) by mail.gmx.net (mp001) with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 19:16:26 +0200 From: Larry Orr To: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:16:03 -0500 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" X-Mailer: Opera 6.05 build 1140 Subject: [Iowa-dx] Larry signing on Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Greetings, folks - It's good to see this list up and running! Many thanks to Rick and all who got it going. I'm Larry Orr, currently Co-Chair of the Iowa Green Party and Alternate Delegate to the national party's Coordinating Commitee CC. Until I sought the Co-Chair position, I was full Delegate to the CC . (Full of what, I hear you ask....) I was a Delegate to the Nominating Convention in Denver in 2000, voting for Gaskin (ask me about him sometime) but acceding gracefully to Nader. And while Gaskin is still in mind, let just say two words: Wendell Berry. I've been progressively eclectic in politics ever since high school, when I simultaneously addressed the local Rotary Club on the threat of Castro, and got dumped by a girlfriend who campaigned for Nixon while I quietly backed JFK. A few months later, in Iowa City, my rhetoric instructor accused me of seeing the world through Air Force blue-tinted glasses. Four years in the USAF, working intelligence in the Middle East, cured me of that. I returned to Iowa City and the Vietnam protests, where I always stayed on the upwind fringe of the crowd (better air). I alternated between registered Democrat and Independent, except for a glorious day as a Republican, when my vote helped defeat a very dangerous candidate in a primary. Speaking of votes, I might add that I once lived in a precinct where Eldridge Cleaver out-polled Hubert Humphrey. What an era that was! When the opportunity to go Green came along, I realized that my approach to life pretty much agrees with the 10 Key Values, and I've been Green ever since. I've lived all over the world, and loved it. That has broadened my views - the world is a closed system, and everything we do has consequences for everyone everywhere, and for all life to come. I'm a school librarian (jr-sr high) and sometime science teacher (whenever they can catch me). There are many microcosmic satoris in such a life.... Right now my wife, 2 sons, and I live in rural Van Buren County, a county so remote that there isn't a single franchise of any type here, let alone a traffic light. We hear coyotes at night, we see turkeys all the time (who doesn't, I hear you say....), and we hit a deer with the car last winter. We're trying to re-establish native plants in our meadow and woods. It's a good life, and looking out the window right now, I see the edge of the woods, countless shades of green, vibrant in the sun. I'd like that to be a metaphor for us: countless shades of green, all diverse in our many ways and in our many views, but flourishing together, vibrant and robust, through our shared views on justice, sustainability, and all the good things of life The 10 Key Values, so to speak. I look forward to our exchanges of ideas very much, and I expect that this list will strengthen us all as we practice our humane and respectful conversational skills. Electronic communication is too new for us humans to be very good at it yet, so we'll have to be very careful about how we treat each other. We can do this well Let's. Onwards we go! Larry From rjohnson64@yahoo.com Fri Jun 20 23:21:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 19733 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jun 2003 23:21:56 -0000 Received: from web10506.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.130.156) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 23:21:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20030620232053.6899.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.219.54.94] by web10506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:20:53 PDT Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:20:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Reply-To: RJohnson64@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Iowa-dx] Fwd: Doug Ireland on the 2004 Elections To: iowa-dx@gp-us.org In-Reply-To: <1056122860.3ef327eceb260@webmail2.its.uiowa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > At this point it looks like Kucinich's electoral > performance might be > embarrassing to the Left; in the latest Iowa poll, > taken for KCII-TV and > released June 6, he's still at just 1 percent, > despite weeks of > campaigning there. Moreover, it's an open secret > that Kucinich's > presidential candidacy will terminate in March > 2004, which is the > deadline for filing for re-election to his House > seat. So he won't even > be present as a candidate to inject content into > the predictably > soporific national Democratic convention in Boston > in 2004. And what is > Kucinich building post-candidacy? As far as I can > tell, there's nothing > in his campaign plan. Should organizing stop just > so Kucinich can go > back to Ohio and continue to collect his > Congressional paycheck? Given the front-loading of primaries this would make sense. The Democrat candidate will have been chosen by this time, and I suspect that you will see all but the winner bowing out and moving to secure their seats in the Senate or House. Of course, if he is the front-runner at this point that would change. > > The Democratic party Left should absorb the > political history lesson > from the takeover of the Republican Party by the > Reagan-Goldwater brand > of reactionary ideological conservatism, whose > ultimate triumph was > sealed by the installation of George W. Bush and > Karl Rove in the White > House. The hard-right conservatives won control of > the GOP partly by > being unafraid to run primaries to punish or evict > so-called > "moderates," and sometimes by running independent > candidacies against > them (as New York's Conservative Party did so > effectively, even electing > one of their own -- Bill Buckley's brother James -- > to the U.S. Senate > seat of the late "liberal" GOPer Jacob Javits). Of course, the conservative Republicans used religion to unite their base. It took nearly 20 years to pull together the religous right into a cohesive voting block. It took a huge amount of money and time. What principle can we use to unite the progressives? Clearly the author of this piece insists on idealogical purity, faulting Kucinich for his recent conversion to pro-choice, in spite of his excellent progressive record in many other areas. Also, the remark about anti-rational religion smacks of an elitist view that will not set well with the Pagans in the progressive movement (like myself). > > The Democratic Leadership Council wasn't afraid to > support primary > fights, and the DLC's carrot-and-stick approach > helped them corral the > support of a raft of scaredy-cat incumbents whose > natural inclination to > scuttle away from left-liberalism (and thus harvest > corporate campaign > cash) was accelerated by the prospect of securing a > place on the DLC's > approval list. Democratic Left progressives should > create a structure > that combines the most effective tactics of the DLC > and Christian > Coalition models: Candidate recruitment, > unambiguous ideological content > at the top, along with coordinated fundraising > (DLC) and a grassroots > voter education and mobilization effort with the > creation of a donor > base at the bottom (Christian Coalition). Along the way the new right made alliances with groups that did not necessarily agree with their agenda. For example, the abortion issue is a hot button with the GOP base, yet the new Right has endorsed pro-choice candidates over liberals and progressives to help cement their majority. Only in the last 4-6 years have you seen them turn to the issue of "purifying" their ranks. To get to the top they made some compromises, and worked with folks who agreed with them 80, even 60% of the time. Are we willing to do the same, or should only the pure apply? > The problem is that, so far, nobody seems willing > to engage in the hard, > long-term work needed to build or finance such a > primary-fighting > structure. I doubt that in the current political > context one can build > such an operation without the labor movement. But > the national labor > leadership is on the defensive in the Bush era more > than ever before. It > faces a declining membership and hence declining > funds, as America's > industrial base has evaporated. Unions are also > suffering the disastrous > consequences of labor's failure to educate its > members in politics > during the Meany-Kirkland decades of AFL-CIO > stasis; half of the unions' > members now vote Republican. And finally, the labor > leadership won't put > its remaining muscle and money behind anything they > can't control. That could apply to many other groups within the progressive coalition. Take a look at our own discussions over International ANSWER, the WWP, and other groups that have approached us for endorsements. Also take a look at the peace movement itself, the crowning glory of the progressive movement at the moment. If you step outside issues of war & peace the coalition begins to fragment. The right built support for their efforts at many levels. They moved into media, taking control of key newspaper and television outlets. One of their own started a new network that has blossomed over the past 10 years (FOX). And, need I say anything about talk radio? They also formed think-tanks to develop policy direction and speak for the movement. Many in the current administration came out of the Project for a New American Century, one of these neo-con think tanks. They prepared "studies" and went on television & radio to spread their word. The progressive movement is about 20 years behind the curve, and we have a lot of catching up to do. Unfortunately, we are seeing signs from the administration that our movement may be outlawed in the name of national security. If Patriot II is adopted groups like International ANSWER, United for Peace and Justice, the Green Party, and other activist groups could be labelled terrorist sympathizers, and our leaders jailed. Our infrastructure could be seized and databases given to the FBI or CIA. We may not have 20 years to organize if current trends continue. Rick Johnson ===== RJohnson64 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From rjohnson64@yahoo.com Sat Jun 21 01:08:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 24426 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jun 2003 01:08:12 -0000 Received: from web10501.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.130.151) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 01:08:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20030621010709.7041.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.219.54.94] by web10501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:07:09 PDT Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:07:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Reply-To: RJohnson64@yahoo.com To: iowa-dx@gp-us.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Iowa-dx] Thanks for the intros... Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I'm still working to get to know folks in the Green Party, and the intros are very much appreciated. We have a lot of folks here with a lot of experience, which should make for some great discussions. There are a few of you who I don't yet know. I look forward to meeting you at various state events and via this list. BekySharp@aol.com, you're address is new to me, so I'm thinking you are one of these folks I have yet to meet. If so, I look forward to discussing things with you on the list. Would you care to tell us a bit about yourself (or am I the only one here who doesn't know who you are?) It's good to see you here (as well as everyone else). I see from the other intros that mine was woefully short, so I'll add some more information. I cut my teeth in the rank-and-file of the Robertson Revolution of 1988, and became active in the Christian Coalition shortly after the GOP showed Pat the door. I've served on the Des Moines County GOP central committee and have attended a couple of state GOP conventions as a delegate from DMC. I worked for the Pat Buchanan campaign in 1992, and chaired the SE Iowa Alan Keyes campaign in 1996. I left the GOP in 1999. I was also active in the Iowa Christian Coalition, the Iowa Right to Life Committee, and the early iteration of the American Family Association state chapter. I participated in the Promise Keepers movement for several years, attending a large gathering in St. Louis in 1996 and remaining active until 1999, when I separated myself from all conservative group affiliations. I've been an activist in local DMC politics for almost 15 years, but only the past 3 or 4 have been on the progressive side of the ledger. My affiliations are now with groups like Americans United for Separation of Church and State, NAACP, ACLU, PFLAG, and of course the Green Party. Our family attends services at the UU Fellowship in Burlington, where I serve as Treasurer. I'm also currently civilian co-chair of the IAAP Restoration Advisory Board. I work at Louisa-Muscatine Community School, where I have been employed as technology supervisor for the past 10 years. ===== RJohnson64 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Sat Jun 21 01:12:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 24627 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jun 2003 01:12:38 -0000 Received: from night.its.uiowa.edu (128.255.56.106) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 21 Jun 2003 01:12:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (webmail2-maint.its.uiowa.edu [128.255.56.154]) by night.its.uiowa.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/ns-mx-1.14) with ESMTP id h5L1BaLl071980 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:11:36 -0500 Received: from dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu (dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu [128.255.61.101]) by webmail2.its.uiowa.edu (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:11:36 -0500 Message-ID: <1056157896.3ef3b0c8286c8@webmail2.its.uiowa.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:11:36 -0500 From: hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu To: iowa-dx@gp-us.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 128.255.61.101 Subject: [Iowa-dx] Fwd: from the IPPN: Do Not Patronize Me Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Ok, here's another article! A slightly different point of view, and some good suggestions (imo) on campaign finance reform and voting methods. >From one of my constituents. Charlie Green CO Delegate ------- Forwarded message follows ------- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Submitted to the Independent Progressive Politics Network June 4, 2003 DO NOT PATRONIZE ME By J. Che' Davies Although selecting Ralph Nader as its presidential candidate in the 2000 election spurred much interest and sincere supporters, the Green Party could not generate enough campaign contributions to compete with either of the major parties on any level of government office. While Mr. Nader sought the camera lens and reporters' pens of the media to broaden his audience, most Green Party candidates were more or less on their own, eking the best they could do from free public speaking and limited interviews. Without matching federal funds due to the 3% presidential campaign, we cannot fairly compete with the major parties on the national level much less on the local levels. Some of this is based on the present limitation of donations and on our Green values of not taking corporate donations. There are several scenarios which would improve our lack of campaign money and having choices should help our present dilemma of running a candidate for president. First, was, as in past tense, the campaign finance reform as proposed by Senators McCain and Feingold and passed by Congress as the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act (BCRA) of 2002, but it may be reconsidered by the Supreme Court as unconstitutional, (see McConnell v. FEC); [although the only rights being deemed unconstitutional are those of corporations and Political Action Committees (PACs), offering soft money in campaign contributions. Corporations are entities, not human beings whose rights are protected constitutionally.]* The other possibility is to propose and to persuade Proportional Representation, as that being used in a parliamentary form of government. This would have placed Gore in as president and the majority of Congressional representation would be Democrat, Republican next, and then Green, each with their percentage of Congress based on the percentage of the votes for president. Nader would have given us 3% in Green representation. Think about it. Look at what one Independent can do. The majority of constituents liked what we represented on all issues, but they wanted "sure" winners and not to feel as though they sacrificed their votes. Consequently, on the national level, we were blamed for pulling the progressive votes from Gore. The Democrats need to look deeper at their voting records, too. The Greens did not approve Gale Norton for Secretary of the Interior, Christine Todd Whitman on the EPA, or John Ashcroft in the Department of Justice. That is like an oxymoron to me. The Greens did not vote for the U.S.A. Patriot Act, nor did we attack Iraq, preemptively and unilaterally. The Greens did not grant contracts to Halliburton and Bechtel even before the first bomb dropped. The Greens were the ones in the streets with the signs "No Blood for Oil" while being hauled off to jail. George W. Bush and his illustrious régime have created all the chaos. They are the perpetrators and rather than bowing our heads and carrying the guilt like a battered person, we need choices. We need to negotiate with the purported progressive Democrats but to propose the following. We constitutionally are free to run a candidate of our choice for president, who represents the values of the Green Party. The Democrats actually won the last election with the popular vote but lost the election (however slimly) by the electoral-college votes and by default of Florida's count to the Supreme Court. Unless and until the present voting system is changed the progressive Democrats will always risk the-winner-take-all, electoral-college votes. Another point to highlight is Instant Runoff Voting (IRV), which would eliminate the Democrats' concern over a Green candidate taking their votes. Gore would have won without a doubt. It's too bad the Democrats spent so much time pointing their fingers and not proposing this when they held the majority in the Senate. It might have passed. However, it is never too late and I see it as our bargaining chip. We have the power this election to persuade the nation's Democrats to get these issues passed. 1. Campaign Finance Reform 2. Proportional Representation 3. Instant Runoff Voting The Democrats who are in Congress have one and one half years to set the above into motion. Until they do, do not patronize me. We have the power with a Green Party candidate or a candidate with Green values. I recommend we use it. #### * From hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Sun Jun 22 02:06:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 19860 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jun 2003 02:06:26 -0000 Received: from night.its.uiowa.edu (128.255.56.106) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 02:06:26 -0000 Received: from localhost (webmail1-maint.its.uiowa.edu [128.255.56.153]) by night.its.uiowa.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/ns-mx-1.14) with ESMTP id h5M25MLl065788 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:05:22 -0500 Received: from dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu (dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu [128.255.61.101]) by webmail1.its.uiowa.edu (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:05:22 -0500 Message-ID: <1056247522.3ef50ee2c60d8@webmail1.its.uiowa.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:05:22 -0500 From: hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu To: iowa-dx@gp-us.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 128.255.61.101 Subject: [Iowa-dx] I - Fwd: Should greens get on the Kucinich bandwagon? Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Here's some more for your reading enjoyment. Today's installments feature this discussion by several Greens from around the country. *********** June 12, 2003 Friends, We have recently witnessed the emergence of a strong anti-war, anti-Bush candidate in the Democratic field, namely, Dennis Kucinich, and the growing convergence of his campaign and the grassroots antiwar, anti-Bush movement. Greens in my area have already indicated they will work for Kucinich, and the larger antiwar groups with which I am involved locally are gravitating to Kucinich. These groups have sprung up in my area as they have all across the country. They include greens, and are largely sympathetic to green principles, but most people in them are non-greens and wary of third party efforts. They are composed of faith-based folks, various secular humanists, liberals, and a scattering of radicals and countercultural types. Whatever greens may think, these groups are now the nucleus of the activist opposition to Bush, and they are looking for an antiwar, anti-Bush candidate, and right now are finding that candidate in Kucinich. They are not waiting for a green candidate. The Kucinich effort may be doomed, as most greens would argue, but he is making a powerful grassroots impact. He's at the center of a growing political firestorm in the Democratic party. Many grassroots Democrats are more ready to revolt than any time I can remember. The situation within the Democratic party is very different from 2000, thanks to Bush. It is not easy to sit by and watch this bandwagon get rolling, especially since Kucinich is not (like Gore) the lesser of two evils, but, at least so far, a greater good. On the issues, he seems as good as Nader. Is there a green critique of Kucinich? Would it be churlish of greens not to support someone like Kucinich at this stage? The internal green debate has focused on what to do after the major party nominations are clear, but what we have increasingly in a situation in which a very good candidate has emerged fighting for the Democratic nomination. Does he deserve support, particularly as otherwise greens will be largely sitting on their hands in the meantime, with no clear green candidate apparently emerging? For Greens to work on the Kucinich campaign as long as he's a viable candidate (the Democratic nominee will be clear by March) may be a way for greens to reach out to a larger constituency and build a coalition, while at the same time preserving the right to nominate our own candidate for president in the end. If Kucinich fails to get the Democratic nomination, as seems likely, and if Dean fails as well, many of the energized supporters of these candidates may well split off and work for a Green presidential candidate. And no one can say that the Greens didn't give the Dems a chance. This outcome could in the end give a real boost to a decent green presidential candidate like Nader. If Kucinich wins the Democratic nomination, however, all bets would be off. It would prove wrong those who have concluded that the Democratic party is totally dead. Yes, he would still be likely to lose (like McGovern), or even if he won the election, he probably would not be able to govern (like Carter). But it would constitute a formidible challenge to corporate control of the political system, a bigger challenge than greens would seem able to offer at this point, and one which seems deserving of support. Adrian Kuzminksi, GP of New York From hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Sun Jun 22 02:07:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 19890 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jun 2003 02:07:53 -0000 Received: from day.its.uiowa.edu (128.255.56.107) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 02:07:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (webmail1-maint.its.uiowa.edu [128.255.56.153]) by day.its.uiowa.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/ns-mx-1.14) with ESMTP id h5M26nRn002284 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:06:49 -0500 Received: from dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu (dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu [128.255.61.101]) by webmail1.its.uiowa.edu (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:06:49 -0500 Message-ID: <1056247609.3ef50f39bfa63@webmail1.its.uiowa.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:06:49 -0500 From: hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu To: iowa-dx@gp-us.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 128.255.61.101 Subject: [Iowa-dx] II - Fwd: Decoy Dems Re: Should greens get on the Kucinich bandwagon?] Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This response from Scott McClarty, DC Statehood Greens: If individual Greens want to support Kucinich and help him in the primaries, they have every right to do so, and it might even help the Green Party advance in some places and win us some friends & voters. But let's consider the historical role of progressives Dems, such as Jesse Jackson in 1984 & 1988 and Jerry Brown. Despite sincere and sometimes very strong primary campaigns, there was almost no chance they'd win the nomination. After the nomination went to the corporate Dem, the ultimate effect of their efforts was to keep progressives within the mainstream Democratic fold and ensure that we'd all vote Democrat in November. This happened regardless of whether the progressive candidate was invited to the convention and endorsed the nominee (Jackson) or was closed out of the convention (Brown). That's what we should anticipate. Kucinich, Sharpton, Moseley-Braun, Dean may (or may not) have excellent platforms and credentials, but within their party they'll play the role of Decoy Democrats -- especially useful to the extent that they'll lure Green voters over and stifle the impulse of progressive anti-war Dems to vote Green. It's fine if many Greens want to back Kucinich or other Decoy Dems (we can't control people's choices, anyway, and shouldn't have that power), as long as the Green Party itself prepares to run strong, well-organized campaigns at all levels, national, state, and local. Otherwise, we're setting ourselves up for an November election in which the choice is limited to two pro-war pro-corporate candidates. As I wrote yesterday, there are lots of scenarios we can envision for 2004 (though the one I describe above is very likely, I think), and the best way the Green Party can prepare for all of them is to plan right now to run aggressively as possible, including at the national level, regardless of the decision of individual Greens to support Kucinich or other prog Dems. I suggest that Green supporters of Kucinich think past the primary, and try to create the kinds of friendships and alliances in the Kucinich campaign that will translate into support for the Green Party and for state and local Green candidates, and for a Green presidential candidate if (when) Kucinich doesn't get the nomination. Those of us who have run for local office know that our best friends on the campaign trail are the supporters of the Democrats (and Republicans too) who won't win their party's primary. Scott From hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Sun Jun 22 02:08:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 19950 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jun 2003 02:08:54 -0000 Received: from day.its.uiowa.edu (128.255.56.107) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 02:08:54 -0000 Received: from localhost (webmail1-maint.its.uiowa.edu [128.255.56.153]) by day.its.uiowa.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/ns-mx-1.14) with ESMTP id h5M27oRn021344 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:07:50 -0500 Received: from dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu (dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu [128.255.61.101]) by webmail1.its.uiowa.edu (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:07:50 -0500 Message-ID: <1056247670.3ef50f76063c4@webmail1.its.uiowa.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:07:50 -0500 From: hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu To: iowa-dx@gp-us.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 128.255.61.101 Subject: [Iowa-dx] Fwd: Re: Decoy Dems Re:Should greens get on the Kucinich bandwagon?] Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Another repsonse from Dean Myerson, GP-US Political Coordinator At 07:05 AM 6/12/2003 -0700, Scott McLarty wrote: >If individual Greens want to support Kucinich and >help him in the primaries, they have every right >to do so, and it might even help the Green Party >advance in some places and win us some friends & >voters. On the other hand, if Kucinich is drawing activist help from progressive in general and on-the-fence Greens later this year, and, say Nader, joins the race then, Nader might find that his activist pool is depleted and be forced into a lower profile until Kucinich either drops out or fades, because he let Kucinich build momentum first. That point (early next year) would leave us in a bad situation to do our petition drives, particularly if Kucinich perserveres to the Dem convention, no matter how he does in the primaries. I would add that since Kucinich undoubtedly knows the role and fate of previous progressive Dems seeking the Presidential nomination, we need to consider unfortunately that this may be one reason he is running, though his supporters would probably be angry at such a suggestion. Dean From hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Sun Jun 22 02:11:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 20042 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jun 2003 02:11:33 -0000 Received: from night.its.uiowa.edu (128.255.56.106) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 02:11:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (webmail1-maint.its.uiowa.edu [128.255.56.153]) by night.its.uiowa.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/ns-mx-1.14) with ESMTP id h5M2ATLl024692 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:10:29 -0500 Received: from dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu (dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu [128.255.61.101]) by webmail1.its.uiowa.edu (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:10:29 -0500 Message-ID: <1056247829.3ef5101530794@webmail1.its.uiowa.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:10:29 -0500 From: hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu To: iowa-dx@gp-us.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 128.255.61.101 Subject: [Iowa-dx] Fwd: 2004 Green strategery [Re: Kucinich and the Green Party] Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Another message from SCott McLarty, DC Statehood Greens Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 09:17:47 -0700 (PDT) ... ... the Green Party as an organization is absolutely independent of the Democratic Party as an organization. Steve Schmidt is correct that at the trench level, many Greens and Democrats often find themselves working side by side. This much is all obvious and beside the point. Kucinich's loyalties are going to remain within the Democratic Party, as the quotes sent by Howie confirm. Kucinich may be absolutely sincere in running, or his candidacy might be a ploy to attract progressives, leftoids, and other potential Green voters within the Democratic fold. Nevertheless, many Greens are going to join progressive Dems in those trenches and try to help him win the nomination, whether other Greens approve or gnash their teeth. That's the reality the Green Party will have to deal with as we approach 2004. (Other possible realities, such as an invasion of Iran, an economic collapse discrediting Bush, etc. we can only guess at right now.) So let me suggest that any serious discussion of 2004 Green strategy not bother with "Should Greens support Kucinich?", since many will anyway. Instead, let's concentrate on how we can prepare for the period after the Dems have made their choice, whether a Democratic frontrunner emerges in the primaries or we have to wait until the convention. That's when the Green role in the 2004 election will become problematic and we'll face the most intense criticism and pressure to defer to Kerry, Gephardt, or whoever. We need to anticipate that Kucinich will lose the Democratic nomination -- he still has low poll numbers & poor name recognition; the media seems to have christened Dean the official antiwar candidate; he's notoriously poor at fundraising. We should also anticipate that Kucinich will not lend any support to the Greens or to the Green national candidate after his defeat. He will either endorse the nominee (like Jackson in 1984 & 1988) or withdraw, tacitly approving the nominee (like Brown in 1992). So let me suggest some more realistic strategies: (1) Acknowledge publicly that many Greens hold admiration and hopes for Kucinich and some have joined his campaign (this is a statement of fact), although the party has no intention of endorsing any Democrats. But the Green Party itself fully intends to nominate a presidential candidate next summer, and the choice (with 'no candidate' a possible option) will be made by the membership of the party, through primaries (where Greens participate in state primaries) and through the nomination process. We make no deals with Dems -- our grassroots democratic structure prevents national Green officials from making such deals anyway. (2) Encourage Greens who are campaigning for Kucinich or any other Democratic presidential candidate to build up connections among other people (whether they're Dems or not) who are supporting them, and especially to use these connections to promote Green candidates for Congress and for state and local office. (3) Step up our efforts to promote the Green Party as THE antiwar party, the party that defends people and the health of the planet against the predatory and global power of corporations, the party for national health insurance, etc. (4) Start NOW to promote candidates for state and local office (those who we know intend to run), not wait until they formally announce. Their names need to be well-known six months before the races begin, and they need to be out meeting and talking to people right now. Part of this might be preparing for a major campus outreach as the fall semester approaches. Parties & potential candidates need start raising war chest money, too. (5) Get some clear messages out to the media and the public about where we stand. Here are a few we can begin with: -- The Green Party expects to advance dramatically in local and state elections, continuing the steady growth we've shown over the past 6 years. -- The Democrats, with a few exceptions, have abdicated their role as the opposition party. They mostly endorsed the invasion of Iraq, executive branch's power grab, assault on civil liberties and human rights, etc. and have also compromised their own principles away in their crummy alternatives to Bush's tax scheme, prescription drug plan for seniors, etc. -- The true second party is not the Dems, but that huge block of citizens who don't vote (yet), who remain independent or registered in a third party, who are disgusted with bipartisan politics, who protested the war -- a movement for which the Green Party has taken the lead. Despite Dem & Repub efforts to ensure our silence in 2004, we will be a major part of the political scene, the campaign season, and the public debate. -- "Spoiling" is a whine from Dems unable to face their own party's lackluster campaign and failure in 2000. It wasn't Nader & the Greens who spoiled for Al Gore, it was the US Supreme Court & the Florida GOP. The Dems have done next to nothing to prevent such an outrage from happening again. Let's call Spoiler Panic a calculated and dishonest ploy to distract voters from the Dems' own failures and retreats. -- We do not accept the argument that the Greens must automatically defer to the Dems in order to defeat Bush. To do so would be to accept a November ballot that's limited to two pro-war, pro-corporate candidates. If the peace & justice movement is browbeaten into supporting pro-war Kerry, Gephardt etc., then the peace & justice movement is as fraudulent as Rumsfeld's claims about Iraqi WMDs. A Democratic victory in 2004 will defer Bush's grosser imperial designs (at least until an inevitable future Republican White House), but will maintain America's permanent wartime economy, option of bombing small nations (cf. Clinton), anti-labor anti-eco international trade policies, erosion of rights, war on drugs, etc. (6) Finally, and this is absolutely urgent: We should anticipate an intense and nasty attempt by Democrats -- especially progressive Dems! -- to discredit the Green Party entirely. They will throw all sorts of shit at us, from spoiling in 2000 to our friendship towards evil Jew-hating conspiracy theorist Cynthia McKinney to stereotypes of Greens as all-white hippy-dippy trust-fund socialists to a major financial scandal destroying the California GP to Nader's 1996 genocidal 'gonadal politics' remark. At the very least, we can expect many otherwise progressive media to ignore or even censor us, something that might already be happening at The Nation and a few other periodicals and web sites. (This probably requires a whole separate strategy discussion.) I'm sure other Greens will have more and better strategies to add to this list, or corrections to some of my suggestions. But the main point is that we need to plan an aggressive party strategy for 2004 based on what we know will happen and taking all the stuff we can't control into account. Scott From hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Sun Jun 22 02:12:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 20089 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jun 2003 02:12:30 -0000 Received: from night.its.uiowa.edu (128.255.56.106) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 02:12:30 -0000 Received: from localhost (webmail1-maint.its.uiowa.edu [128.255.56.153]) by night.its.uiowa.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/ns-mx-1.14) with ESMTP id h5M2BQLl020350 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:11:26 -0500 Received: from dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu (dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu [128.255.61.101]) by webmail1.its.uiowa.edu (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:11:26 -0500 Message-ID: <1056247886.3ef5104e2d5d7@webmail1.its.uiowa.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:11:26 -0500 From: hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu To: iowa-dx@gp-us.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 128.255.61.101 Subject: [Iowa-dx] Fwd: Re: 2004 Green strategery [Re: Kucinich and the Green Party] Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: One more, from Dean Myerson, GP-US P.C. At 09:17 AM 6/13/2003 -0700, Scott McLarty wrote: >(6) Finally, and this is absolutely urgent: We >should anticipate an intense and nasty attempt by >Democrats -- especially progressive Dems! -- to >discredit the Green Party entirely. . . . and > (This probably requires a whole separate >strategy discussion.) A nasty PR campaign against us is almost a given. I'm more worried about something more covert: -- attack mailings from false (untraceable) addresses -- mailings pretending to be from us that misrepresent what we are for -- hack attacks on our critical computer/internet resources -- break-ins at our offices -- sabotage of our rallies (infiltrators who pretend to be Greens who commit violence, for ex.) -- infiltration of the party by supposed supporters who try to take public roles and do things unrepresentative of us -- and of course, ballot box stuffing. If Jeb can do it for George, the Dems can do it for their nominee in close states Green Parties at all levels, their offices, and many of our candidates, will almost certainly be subject to some of these if we run, the race is close, and are considered to have a potential impact. Most likely all of the things listed above won't happen, but some are virtually guaranteed to happen. Whether it is a strategy approved "at the top" or just by some local folks is mostly irrelevant because the media will ignore anything short of violence against persons with clear evidence. There is far too much power at stake to assume that the only attacks will be public PR. If we choose to take on that role in the campaign, then this is the battle we are choosing to fight, and we have to prepare for it. Dean From rjohnson64@yahoo.com Sun Jun 22 04:11:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 23625 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jun 2003 04:11:55 -0000 Received: from web10508.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.130.158) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 04:11:55 -0000 Message-ID: <20030622041051.16090.qmail@web10508.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.219.54.94] by web10508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:10:51 PDT Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:10:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Reply-To: RJohnson64@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Iowa-dx] Fwd: Re: Decoy Dems Re:Should greens get on the Kucinich bandwagon?] To: iowa-dx@gp-us.org In-Reply-To: <1056247670.3ef50f76063c4@webmail1.its.uiowa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --- hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu wrote: > > Another repsonse from Dean Myerson, GP-US Political > Coordinator > > > At 07:05 AM 6/12/2003 -0700, Scott McLarty wrote: > >If individual Greens want to support Kucinich and > >help him in the primaries, they have every right > >to do so, and it might even help the Green Party > >advance in some places and win us some friends & > >voters. > > On the other hand, if Kucinich is drawing activist > help from progressive in > general and on-the-fence Greens later this year, > and, say Nader, joins the > race then, Nader might find that his activist pool > is depleted and be > forced into a lower profile until Kucinich either > drops out or fades, > because he let Kucinich build momentum first. That > point (early next year) > would leave us in a bad situation to do our petition > drives, particularly > if Kucinich perserveres to the Dem convention, no > matter how he does in the > primaries. > Ralph could prevent this by simply announcing his intention to run for office. He hasn't, and he seems quite content to make no commitment at this time. If, as is suggested, Kucinich is merely a stalking horse designed to steal away progressive support from Nader, then Nader is playing right into his hands. Once again, if Greens are going to consider running a candidate in 2004 that person needs to toss their hat into the ring NOW, not later. We have one person who has done so, but has stated that he will defer to Ralph if he decides to run. With all due respect to our delcared candidate, making that statement brands him as less than serious. If Greens are going to be asked to stand strong for the party and run a serious campaign, then a serious candidate needs to step forward, not a place-holder for Ralph. Rick Johnson ===== RJohnson64 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From rjohnson64@yahoo.com Sun Jun 22 13:40:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 14454 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jun 2003 13:40:41 -0000 Received: from web10507.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.130.157) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 13:40:41 -0000 Message-ID: <20030622133936.681.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.219.54.94] by web10507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 06:39:36 PDT Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 06:39:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Reply-To: RJohnson64@yahoo.com To: iowa-dx@gp-us.org In-Reply-To: <1056247829.3ef5101530794@webmail1.its.uiowa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Iowa-dx] Dean on the Environment Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Here is a link to an article up on AlterNet. http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=16059 Anyone could be better than Bush, but just how good is Dean's record in this area, and how is he going to get it on the front burner of the public's attention? Perhaps he should tie dependence on fossil fuels to terrorism. Rick Johnson ===== RJohnson64 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Sun Jun 22 20:53:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 2584 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jun 2003 20:53:44 -0000 Received: from day.its.uiowa.edu (128.255.56.107) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 22 Jun 2003 20:53:44 -0000 Received: from localhost (webmail1-maint.its.uiowa.edu [128.255.56.153]) by day.its.uiowa.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/ns-mx-1.14) with ESMTP id h5MKqdRn016934 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 15:52:39 -0500 Received: from dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu (dhcp80ff3d65.dynamic.uiowa.edu [128.255.61.101]) by webmail1.its.uiowa.edu (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 15:52:39 -0500 Message-ID: <1056315159.3ef6171776f4f@webmail1.its.uiowa.edu> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 15:52:39 -0500 From: hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu To: iowa-dx@gp-us.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 128.255.61.101 Subject: [Iowa-dx] Fwd: Dean Pushing Death Penalty Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ----- Forwarded message from David Pollard ----- Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 15:30:20 -0500 From: David Pollard To: texgreen@gp-us.org http://timesargus.nybor.com/Story/67135.html Times Argus Dean aligns with Bush on death penalty June 14, 2003 By TRACY SCHMALER Vermont Press Bureau Former Gov. Howard Dean appears to be shedding some of the liberal tendencies that have won him national attention as he now expands his support for the death penalty. In his 11 years as Vermont's governor, his position on capital punishment "evolved" from staunch opposition to limited support, Dean acknowledges. Now, on the stump for the Democratic nomination for president, Dean has extended his endorsement of a death sentence for those who kill children or police officers to include those who commit terrorist acts. "As governor, I came to believe that the death penalty would be a just punishment for certain, especially heinous crimes, such as the murder of a child or the murder of a police officer. The events of September 11 convinced me that terrorists also deserve the ultimate punishment," Dean said in a statement released by his campaign last week. Dean, who was unavailable for an interview, did not define a terrorist act in his statement. He elaborated only to say the punishment would be sought in "very serious cases" and he would do his best to avoid any "unjust imposition of the death penalty." "If elected president, I would apply the federal death penalty with great care. I would instruct my attorney general to seek capital punishment only in very serious cases, including those involving vulnerable victims and those involving terrorism." A political decision? It is a curious contradiction for Dean, who has emerged in the field of nine Democratic contenders as the liberal maverick. The leftist designation has amused political observers in Vermont, who have known Dean as a solidly moderate Democrat for years. But as a presidential candidate, Dean has planted himself on the left and gotten a great deal of attention for it, particularly his early, outspoken criticism of President Bush and the Iraq war. His shift on the death penalty - his second in his political career - has some questioning his motives. "This doesn't surprise me. I think Dean's willing to do what he has to do to win," said Frank Bryan, a political science professor at the University of Vermont and longtime observer of Dean. "I really believe he's very ambitious and he wants to win badly. He has to get to the final plateau, and I think he will take risks with his inconsistencies being discovered in order to get to the next step." Dean's support of the death penalty for terrorists puts him in agreement with President Bush. Attorney General John Ashcroft told lawmakers last week that the Justice Department is working on an addendum to the USA PATRIOT Act that includes imposing the death penalty for some terrorist activities. Dean needs "to get back to the middle. That's where he lives," said Garrison Nelson, a political science professor at the University of Vermont. "And he's going to have real trouble getting back there because A, it's clogged and B, any feeling of a lack of agenda commitment is going to undermine him with the ideologues. These are issue voters, these are people who work like crazy, but they are fundamentally suspicious and critical. If he starts to burn them on issues, they'll be ferocious." Eric Davis, a Middlebury College political science professor, summed up Dean's change in two words: South Carolina. It is home to the first primary election in the South and, like most of its neighbors, a conservative state. "I think what's going on here is Dean is trying to appeal to electorates in more conservative states, probably South Carolina being the most obvious example," Davis said. "I think this is an example where in many states the opinion on this is more supportive. Perhaps Dean feels he needs to appeal to a more law-and-order constituency." A change The first time Dean softened on the death penalty was in 1997. He had been governor for six years, and the political speculation was that he was eyeing a bid for the presidency in 2000. In interviews with reporters at the time, Dean said he realized some crimes warranted death as the ultimate punishment. "I really just became so convinced that some acts are so incredibly depraved that the death penalty is an appropriate redress," he had said in reports published in the Rutland Herald and Times Argus. "When someone gets put to death for a heinous crime, I don't feel the least bit conflicted about that." That position was starkly different from the one Dean projected to a group of students at Springfield High School five years earlier. In the infancy of his governorship, Dean was an outspoken opponent of the death penalty. "I don't support the death penalty for two reasons. One, you might have the wrong guy, and two, the state is like a parent. Parents who smoke cigarettes can't really tell their children not to smoke and be taken seriously. If a state tells you not to murder people, a state shouldn't be in the business of taking people's lives," he said in 1992. But Dean did not act in 1997, or later when the issue resurfaced, to get any legislation passed in Vermont, where the death penalty was abolished in 1965. His lack of action prompted some to charge that his softening was politically motivated. He dismissed those claims, saying the chances of getting a death penalty bill passed in Vermont were slim. "If I thought the death penalty was going to stop the next depraved murder that might occur in Vermont, I would ask the Legislature to enact it. . I truly don't believe it's a deterrent," he said in 1997 after the father of a girl who was murdered in 1986 publicly charged Dean with changing his stance for political reasons. In defending his switch, Dean attributed some of the impetus to a weak judicial system that allowed murderers to go free, and in some cases kill again. "Until life without parole means life without parole, the public is not safe without a death penalty," Dean said in 1997. "Until we have a judicial system that can adequately protect us, the only thing that will is the death penalty." Ron Weich, Dean's senior policy adviser, said Dean is now broaching the issue from a different perspective. "What's happening is he was governor at the time. He necessarily has to broaden his view now," Weich said. "A governor is looking at ordinary, street-level homicide. A president has to look at national security." Weich acknowledged that Dean and Bush may stand on common political ground on this issue, but said a Dean administration would employ the federal death penalty in a much different way. "It's true he and President Bush share the view that the death penalty should be available in some cases of terrorism," he said. "But (Dean) would not apply the death penalty in the kind of wanton and reckless manner Attorney General Ashcroft has used." \ From dnorthrop@desmoinesgreens.org Thu Jun 26 02:37:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usgp-mx-iowa-dx@gp-us.org Received: (qmail 28663 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jun 2003 02:37:57 -0000 Received: from sccimhc02.asp.att.net (63.240.76.164) by cesarchavez.cagreens.org with SMTP; 26 Jun 2003 02:37:57 -0000 Received: from darylwu57c5208 (12-215-45-95.client.mchsi.com[12.215.45.95]) by sccimhc02.asp.att.net (sccimhc02) with SMTP id <20030626023617im200dbtpke>; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 02:36:17 +0000 Message-ID: <005b01c33b8b$b68e5520$5f2dd70c@darylwu57c5208> Reply-To: "Daryl Northrop" From: "Daryl Northrop" To: Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 21:36:14 -0500 Organization: Polk County Green Party MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0057_01C33B61.CD6E4BD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [Iowa-dx] 2004 Presidental Candidate: Polk County Greens feedback Sender: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org Errors-To: iowa-dx-admin@lists.gp-us.org X-BeenThere: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Talking Green in Iowa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C33B61.CD6E4BD0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0058_01C33B61.CD6E4BD0" ------=_NextPart_001_0058_01C33B61.CD6E4BD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: 2004 Presidental Candidate: Polk County Greens feedback > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:41:16 -0500 > Organization:Polk County Green Party > > > > Sarah, Larry- > =20 > Recently, I sent the following email to the Polk County Green mailing > list:(results of responses listed below) > =20 > "http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41545-2003May26.html > > Hello Greens! > > The above article speaks about an important issue facing Greens = across the > nation: Run a candidate in 2004, or not run a candidate, and back the > Democrats. > > The two sides of the argument are basically this: > > 1. The Greens should run a candidate. This will help grow the party, = bring > tough issues to the attention of the media that the large party = candidates > usually ignore, and the public would see that there is an alternative = to > voting for two corporate owned parties. > > 2. The Greens should not run a candidate. Bush and his war-mongering = cronies > are so offensive, and particularly bad for the country, and the = world, that > supporting the "lesser of two evils" makes sense in times like these. > > ***A caveat: It is not my purpose to sway any particular person on = this > issue. I am just stating the main points of the two arguments. Based = on > responses, I will present the feedback to the state and national = Green > Party. What we are doing here is an exercise in internal democratic > practices. > > I would like to send a summary of the feedback to the state and = national > Greens on Sunday, June 15 2003. So- get your responses in! Also, feel = free > to elaborate on why you chose the way you did. > > Thanks! > > Daryl Northrop, Co-Chair > Polk County Green Party > Liberty, Ecology, Tolerance > www.desmoinesgreens.org > www.gp.org > " > =20 > I rec'd a total of 13 responses. 8 were in favor of running a = Presidential > candidate in 2004, and 5 were against. Included is a MS Word document = with > the dissenting messages. I believe that even though the "don't runs" = were in > the minority, their voice needs to be heard by party leadership. = Please add > this to your general survey of how the state Greens feel about = running a > national candidate in 2004. > =20 > Thank you. > =20 > Daryl Northrop, Co-Chair > Polk County Green Party > Liberty, Ecology, Tolerance > www.desmoinesgreens.org > www.gp.org ------=_NextPart_001_0058_01C33B61.CD6E4BD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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>  Organization:Polk County Green=20 Party
>
>
>
>  Sarah, = Larry-
>  =20
>  Recently, I sent the following email to the Polk County = Green=20 mailing
>  list:(results of responses listed=20 below)
>  
>  "http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41545-2003May26.htm= l
>
>  Hello = Greens!
>
> =20 The above article speaks about an important issue facing Greens across=20 the
>  nation: Run a candidate in 2004, or not run a = candidate, and=20 back the
>  Democrats.
>
>  The two sides of = the=20 argument are basically this:
>
>  1. The Greens should = run a=20 candidate. This will help grow the party, bring
>  tough = issues to=20 the attention of the media that the large party candidates
>  = usually=20 ignore, and the public would see that there is an alternative = to
> =20 voting for two corporate owned parties.
>
>  2. The = Greens=20 should not run a candidate. Bush and his war-mongering = cronies
>  are=20 so offensive, and particularly bad for the country, and the world,=20 that
>  supporting the "lesser of two evils" makes sense in = times=20 like these.
>
>  ***A caveat: It is not my purpose to = sway any=20 particular person on this
>  issue. I am just stating the = main points=20 of the two arguments. Based on
>  responses, I will present = the=20 feedback to the state and national Green
>  Party. What we = are doing=20 here is an exercise in internal democratic
> =20 practices.
>
>  I would like to send a summary of the = feedback=20 to the state and national
>  Greens on Sunday, June 15 2003. = So- get=20 your responses in! Also, feel free
>  to elaborate on why you = chose=20 the way you did.
>
>  Thanks!
>
>  = Daryl=20 Northrop, Co-Chair
>  Polk County Green Party
>  = Liberty,=20 Ecology, Tolerance
>  www.desmoinesgreens.org
>  www.gp.org
>  "
>  
>  = I rec'd a=20 total of 13 responses. 8 were in favor of running a = Presidential
> =20 candidate in 2004, and 5 were against. Included is a MS Word document=20 with
>  the dissenting messages. I believe that even though = the=20 "don't runs" were in
>  the minority, their voice needs to be = heard=20 by party leadership. Please add
>  this to your general = survey of how=20 the state Greens feel about running a
>  national candidate = in=20 2004.
>  
>  Thank you.
>  =20
>  Daryl Northrop, Co-Chair
>  Polk County Green=20 Party
>  Liberty, Ecology, Tolerance
>  www.desmoinesgreens.org
>  www.gp.org
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