[Iowa-dx] Green Candidate for governor of NY - Fwd: Malachy on Hardball - Transcript

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Here is the transcript from the show:

MATTHEWS:=A0 Welcome back to HARDBALL.=A0 The New York state governors race =
has
gotten green.=A0 Malachy McCourt, an Irishman if there ever was one, will ru=
n
for New York state governor on the Green Party ticket.=A0 If that name sound=
s
familiar, you might remember a little book called =B3Angela?s Ashes=B2 by
Malachy?s brother Frank.=A0 Malachy is the author as well, an activist, an
actor, and now a candidate.=A0 Welcome.

Is this one of these old William F. Buckley/Jimmy Breslin numbers you?re
pulling here in New York?=A0=A0

MALACHY MCCOURT (GREEN), NEW YORK GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE:=A0 Well, Buckley
said?well, hello, Chris.=A0 Buckley said that if he were elected, he would
demand a recount, and some people asked me if this some kind of a joke?=A0
Well, if you are looking for jokes, try the White House or try the mansion
house in Albany.=A0

Although I don?t take myself seriously, I take what I do seriously.=A0

And...

MATTHEWS:=A0 OK, why aren?t you a Democrat?=A0 Why are you a Green?=A0

MCCOURT:=A0 Why am I a Green?=A0 Because I was a Democrat for years, and I w=
as
one of those lesser of two evil kind of types, but then came all these sort
of wishy-washy, on one hand, on the other hand, like Hillary Clinton and
they?re for the war, they?re not for the war...=A0

MATTHEWS:=A0 OK, let?s not have any wishy-washy.=A0 Where are you on gay
marriage?=A0

MCCOURT: =A0What?s that?=A0

MATTHEWS:=A0 Where are you on gay marriage?=A0

MCCOURT:=A0 Gay marriage, there is no such thing.=A0 There?s only marriage o=
f
people.=A0 Look, Adam?these fundamentalists, if they only knew that Adam whe=
n
God took one of his ribs, it had the same DNA as him.=A0 So when he made Eve
out of the rib, that?s exactly same DNA, so Adam was sleeping with himself.=
=A0
So he must have loved himself.=A0 So I don?t care?look, Mark Twain said, =B3=
I
don?t care what you do, so long as you don?t frighten the horses.=B2=A0

(CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS:=A0 ... make bad comments about people who are gay, as somebody did
on this show a couple of weeks ago.=A0 Look, let me ask you this.=A0 Where a=
re
you on capital punishment?=A0

MCCOURT:=A0 Capital punishment?=A0 I think that if?I have got to find that g=
uy
in Spain who indicted Pinochet and get him for war crimes, and I get him to
do the same thing for Bush.=A0 And in that case, I would be for capital
punishment.=A0 Otherwise, I am against it.=A0

Spitzer, who is the other guy running here, he is for capital punishment for
those who kill policemen.=A0 Well, my son is a cop in New York, and if
somebody killed my son, and it wouldn?t do me any good or give me any
satisfaction to sit there in some death house in Singh-Singh and watch them
put another person to death because they killed my son.=A0 That would not
cheer me up one bit, Chris.=A0

MATTHEWS:=A0 You just sound like a liberal Democrat, Malachy.=A0

MCCOURT:=A0 I?m not liberal.=A0 I am a human being, because I grew up in pov=
erty
and misery, desperation.=A0 And all I want to see is that I want to see a
government of the people, by the people, for the people, not over the
people.=A0 This is the Empire State, and we don?t need an emperor, we need a
governor.=A0

MATTHEWS:=A0 OK.=A0 How much love do you have for Hillary Clinton?=A0 On the=
 scale
of one to 10?

MCCOURT:=A0 It?s not love.=A0 She?s OK.=A0 I don?t love her.=A0

MATTHEWS:=A0 On a scale of one to 10, Hillary Clinton?=A0

MCCOURT:=A0 Hillary Clinton, one.=A0 Not one up top.=A0

MATTHEWS:=A0 What is your beef?

MCCOURT:=A0 We have got a great guy, Howie Hawkins, running on the Green Par=
ty
line.=A0 They should vote for him.=A0

MATTHEWS:=A0 The Green Party seems to have candidates all over the country.=
=A0
Are you really a Naderite, is it connected to Ralph Nader anymore?=A0 Is
this?is he gone now?

MCCOURT:=A0 No, no, Ralph is sort of out of the picture right now.=A0 People=
?a
lot of people are very angry at him because they felt he lost the elections
for the Democrats, but...

MATTHEWS:=A0 Well, he did cost them Florida.=A0

(CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS:=A0 That?s a mathematical fact.=A0 Ninety thousand votes, and we ar=
e
screwing around here, looking at chads?=A0 Anyway.

MCCOURT:=A0 Well, I am not getting into that, Chris, because I just joined.=
=A0

MATTHEWS:=A0 Well, I had to tell you, I hereby make my stand, I like you
already.=A0 Malachy McCourt, Green Party candidate...

(CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS:=A0 And tomorrow on MSNBC, a full day of political coverage.=A0 It?=
s
=B3Decision 2006: Battleground America.=B2=A0 I?ll be here along with Tim Ru=
ssert,
Brian Williams, David Gregory, Campbell Brown, Lester Holt, Joe Scarborough,
Tucker Carlson.=A0 What a murderers row we are.=A0 We?ll be here all day
tomorrow to cover politics.=A0 It?s all for the junkies.=A0 Take the day off=
.=A0

Right now, it?s time for =B3TUCKER.=B2

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