[Iowa-dx] Certification details if you have them: READ RIGHT AWAY
GreenParty Ron
greenpartyron@mail.org
Fri, 2 Nov 2007 13:39:37 -0500
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Why do you label my posting an attack? That is grossly unfair. Unless we
stop being "that little wannabe party" we are never going to beable to
stand up to the larger parties' propaganda system, and we willnever
attract the voter base who wish to be allied to or a part of our party.
If we cannot face our own honest criticisms without your kind of attack
onmy honest statements, then Green Party is doomed.
Enough said.
Ronald Kinuma.k.a. Libris Fidelis
----- Original Message -----
From: jim.oloughlin@uni.edu
To: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org, "GreenParty Ron"
Subject: Re: [Iowa-dx] Certification details if you have them: READ
RIGHT AWAY
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:48:46 -0500 (CDT)
Ron,
I think you're out of line in your comments below and should be
wary of lashing out at people in an on-line forum. I'll respond to
your comments below because you posted that attack to multiple
lists, though I will aim not to be dragged into a flame war.
Since 2001, I've done a half dozen interviews with this particular
radio station as a representative of the Black Hawk County Green
Party, and what they air is about a 30-second piece during the
local news section at the end of the day. I made sure to mention
the vital issue of how the registation process will change in
January. Exactly how many petition signatures we had never came
up, nor was there be an opportunity to take a soap box stand on
Democracy as is suggested below (doing so would truly have seemed
amateurish). I believe that the fact that we produce releases on
meaningful topics and that we've been able to give concise
interviews is the reason this station regularly covers our work
(even though the host of the show is one of those conservative talk
radio types).
It's not been my experience that the great issue standing in our
way is public relations. When we've run candidates and taken
stands on issues, our PR has been generally as successful as we can
hope for. The challenge is maintaining a grassroots organization
that is entirely volunteer-based (amateur, if you will) and
reaching out to the many not-yet-Greens who would be interesting in
us if they knew more about us.
Jim O'Loughlin
Black Hawk County
--- Original Message ---
> I guess it's too late, but what about numbers? Facts are
> important, because the
> radio interviewer or debatees are going to ask those questions,
> and simply
> answering "I don't have the figures but I was told we met the
> requirements"
> gives little credibility to our witnessing speaker.
>
> He might also have mentioned that Green Party of the United
> States is the ONLY
> political party in our United States that has grass-roots
> Democracy (always
> spelled respectfully with a capital "D") written into its party
> platform. No other
> party in our nation has true Democracy in their party platforms!=20
> NONE!
>
> We have to think of those things when we conduct public relations
> at every
> level, or GPUS is going to look like a bunch of amateurs. We
> are the
> ambassadors, every single member, for our party and our future,
> as John
> Rensenbrink says so many times.
>
> Ron Kinum
> a.k.a. Libris Fidelis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu
> To: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org
> Subject: Re: [Iowa-dx] Certification details if you have them:
> READ RIGHT AWAY
> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:23:57 -0500
> Quoting jim.oloughlin@uni.edu:
> > I'll be doing a brief local radio interview today about the
> > certification, and I want to make sure I know the details of the
> > whole shebang. If you can answer any of these questions, can
> > you email them to me right away (sorry, I have to call the
> > radio station in about an hour)?
> This may be too late, but -
> > - We're on the voter reg forms but we still have to petition for
> > candidates, right?
> Yes
> > - Did the Libertarians hit the threshold as well?
> Yes
> > - Did we have about 1500 signatures in the end?
> Yes
> >
> > Any thing else I should try to push?
> >
> Just remind poeple they will have the option of registering
> Green sometime starting January '08!
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<DIV>Why do you label my posting an attack? That is grossly unfair.</=
DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Unless we stop being "that little wannabe party" we are never going to=
be</DIV>
<DIV>able to stand up to the larger parties' propaganda system, and we will=
</DIV>
<DIV>never attract the voter base who wish to be allied to or a part o=
f our party.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If we cannot face our own honest criticisms without your kind of attac=
k on</DIV>
<DIV>my honest statements, then Green Party is doomed.<BR></DIV>
<DIV>Enough said.<BR></DIV>
<DIV>Ronald Kinum</DIV>
<DIV>a.k.a. Libris Fidelis</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #101=
0ff 2px solid">----- Original Message -----<BR>From: jim.oloughlin@uni.edu<=
BR>To: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org, "GreenParty Ron" <GREENPARTYRON@MAIL.ORG><B=
R>Subject: Re: [Iowa-dx] Certification details if you have them: READ RIGHT=
AWAY<BR>Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:48:46 -0500 (CDT)<BR><BR><BR>Ron,<BR><BR>=
I think you're out of line in your comments below and should be <BR>wary of=
lashing out at people in an on-line forum. I'll respond to <BR>your commen=
ts below because you posted that attack to multiple <BR>lists, though I wil=
l aim not to be dragged into a flame war.<BR><BR>Since 2001, I've done a ha=
lf dozen interviews with this particular <BR>radio station as a representat=
ive of the Black Hawk County Green <BR>Party, and what they air is about a =
30-second piece during the <BR>local news section at the end of the day. I =
made sure to mention <BR>the vital issue of how the registation process wil=
l change in <BR>January. Exactly how many petition signatures we had never =
came <BR>up, nor was there be an opportunity to take a soap box stand on <B=
R>Democracy as is suggested below (doing so would truly have seemed <BR>ama=
teurish). I believe that the fact that we produce releases on <BR>meaningfu=
l topics and that we've been able to give concise <BR>interviews is the rea=
son this station regularly covers our work <BR>(even though the host of the=
show is one of those conservative talk <BR>radio types).<BR><BR>It's not b=
een my experience that the great issue standing in our <BR>way is public re=
lations. When we've run candidates and taken <BR>stands on issues, our PR h=
as been generally as successful as we can <BR>hope for. The challenge is ma=
intaining a grassroots organization <BR>that is entirely volunteer-based (a=
mateur, if you will) and <BR>reaching out to the many not-yet-Greens who wo=
uld be interesting in <BR>us if they knew more about us.<BR><BR>Jim O'Lough=
lin<BR>Black Hawk County<BR><BR>--- Original Message ---<BR>> I guess it=
's too late, but what about numbers? Facts are<BR>> important, bec=
ause the<BR>> radio interviewer or debatees are going to ask those quest=
ions,<BR>> and simply<BR>> answering "I don't have the figures but I =
was told we met the<BR>> requirements"<BR>> gives little credibility =
to our witnessing speaker.<BR>> <BR>> He might also have mentio=
ned that Green Party of the United<BR>> States is the ONLY<BR>> polit=
ical party in our United States that has grass-roots<BR>> Democracy (alw=
ays<BR>> spelled respectfully with a capital "D") written into its party=
<BR>> platform. No other<BR>> party in our nation has true Demo=
cracy in their party platforms! <BR>> NONE!<BR>> <BR>> =
We have to think of those things when we conduct public relations<BR>> a=
t every<BR>> level, or GPUS is going to look like a bunch of amateurs.&n=
bsp; We<BR>> are the<BR>> ambassadors, every single member, for our p=
arty and our future,<BR>> as John<BR>> Rensenbrink says so many times=
.<BR>> <BR>> Ron Kinum<BR>> a.k.a. Libris Fidelis<BR>> --=
--- Original Message -----<BR>> From: hhart@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu<BR>> =
To: iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org<BR>> Subject: Re: [Iowa-dx] Certification de=
tails if you have them:<BR>> READ RIGHT AWAY<BR>> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 20=
07 10:23:57 -0500<BR>> Quoting jim.oloughlin@uni.edu:<BR>> > I'll =
be doing a brief local radio interview today about the<BR>> > certifi=
cation, and I want to make sure I know the details of the<BR>> > whol=
e shebang. If you can answer any of these questions, can<BR>> > you e=
mail them to me right away (sorry, I have to call the<BR>> > radio st=
ation in about an hour)?<BR>> This may be too late, but -<BR>> > -=
We're on the voter reg forms but we still have to petition for<BR>> >=
; candidates, right?<BR>> Yes<BR>> > - Did the Libertarians hit th=
e threshold as well?<BR>> Yes<BR>> > - Did we have about 1500 sign=
atures in the end?<BR>> Yes<BR>> ><BR>> > Any thing else I s=
hould try to push?<BR>> ><BR>> Just remind poeple they will have t=
he option of registering<BR>> Green sometime starting January '08!<BR>&g=
t; _______________________________________________<BR>> Iowa-dx mailing =
list<BR>> Iowa-dx@lists.gp-us.org<BR>> http://lists.gp-us.org/mailman=
/listinfo/iowa-dx<BR>> -- Want an e-mail address like mine?<BR>> Get =
a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com<BR>> (http://www.mail.com/Pr=
oduct.aspx)!<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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