[Iowa-dx] Fwd: [ufpj-recruit] Join the Guard to pay for your education?
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Not strictly Green Party stuff, but I thought this was worth =20
forwarding - note, Iowa soldiers are also affected. Disgusting.
Holly
National Guard Troops Denied Benefits After Longest Deployment Of Iraq War
http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=3D71741
MINNEAPOLIS, MN (NBC) -- When they came home from Iraq, 2,600 members of
the Minnesota National Guard had been deployed longer than any other ground
combat unit. The tour lasted 22 months and had been extended as part of
President Bush's surge.
1st Lt. Jon Anderson said he never expected to come home to this: A
government refusing to pay education benefits he says he should have earned
under the GI bill.
"It's pretty much a slap in the face," Anderson said. "I think it was a
scheme to save money, personally. I think it was a leadership failure by the
senior Washington leadership... once again failing the soldiers."
Anderson's orders, and the orders of 1,161 other Minnesota guard members,
were written for 729 days.
Had they been written for 730 days, just one day more, the soldiers would
receive those benefits to pay for school.
"Which would be allowing the soldiers an extra $500 to $800 a month,"
Anderson said.
That money would help him pay for his master's degree in public
administration. It would help Anderson's fellow platoon leader, John Hobot,
pay for a degree in law enforcement.
"I would assume, and I would hope, that when I get back from a deployment of
22 months, my senior leadership in Washington, the leadership that extended
us in the first place, would take care of us once we got home," Hobot said.
Both Hobot and Anderson believe the Pentagon deliberately wrote orders for
729 days instead of 730. Now, six of Minnesota's members of the House of
Representatives have asked the Secretary of the Army to look into it -- So
have Senators Amy Klobuchar and Norm Coleman.
Klobuchar said the GI money "shouldn't be tied up in red tape," and Coleman
said it's "simply irresponsible to deny education benefits to those soldiers
who just completed the longest tour of duty of any unit in Iraq."
Anderson said the soldiers he oversaw in his platoon expected that money to
be here when they come home.
"I had 23 guys under my command," Anderson said. "I promised to take care of
them. And I'm not going to end taking care of them when this deployment is
over, and it's not over until this is solved."
The Army did not respond questions Tuesday afternoon.
Senators Klobuchar and Coleman released a joint statement saying the Army
secretary, Pete Geren, is looking into this personally, and they say Geren
asked a review board to expedite its review so the matter could be solved by
next semester.
Minnesota National Guard spokesman Lt. Col. Kevin Olson said the soldiers
are "victims of a significant injustice."
---------
Other outrageous tidbits:
Defense Department officials agreed yesterday that changes are needed to the
Montgomery GI Bill for the Selected Reserve, as well as the Reserve
Educational Assistance Program.
However, both Thomas L. Bush, acting deputy assistant secretary of defense
for reserve affairs, and Curtis L. Gilroy, the Pentagon's director for
accession policy, said such a measure doesn't fit the program's purpose: to
recruit and retain members.
They said they believe the Defense Department can actually be too generous
in granting GI Bill benefits.
http://www.gxonline.com/gxintelnews?id=3D52458
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Iowa soldiers also shortchanged:
http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/20071013/NEWS/7101=
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330/-1/SPORTS01
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Subject: [ufpj-recruit] Join the Guard to pay for your education?
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The orders of 1,161 Minnesota guard members were written for 729 days. Had
they been written for 730 days, just one day more, the soldiers would have
received benefits to pay for college.
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- Pat Elder
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National Guard Troops Denied Benefits After Longest Deployment Of Iraq War
http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=3D71741
MINNEAPOLIS, MN (NBC) -- When they came home from Iraq, 2,600 members of
the Minnesota National Guard had been deployed longer than any other ground
combat unit. The tour lasted 22 months and had been extended as part of
President Bush's surge.
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1st Lt. Jon Anderson said he never expected to come home to this: A
government refusing to pay education benefits he says he should have earned
under the GI bill.
"It's pretty much a slap in the face," Anderson said. "I think it was a
scheme to save money, personally. I think it was a leadership failure by the
senior Washington leadership... once again failing the soldiers."
Anderson's orders, and the orders of 1,161 other Minnesota guard members,
were written for 729 days.=20
Had they been written for 730 days, just one day more, the soldiers would
receive those benefits to pay for school.
"Which would be allowing the soldiers an extra $500 to $800 a month,"
Anderson said.
That money would help him pay for his master's degree in public
administration. It would help Anderson's fellow platoon leader, John Hobot,
pay for a degree in law enforcement.
"I would assume, and I would hope, that when I get back from a deployment of
22 months, my senior leadership in Washington, the leadership that extended
us in the first place, would take care of us once we got home," Hobot said.
Both Hobot and Anderson believe the Pentagon deliberately wrote orders for
729 days instead of 730. Now, six of Minnesota's members of the House of
Representatives have asked the Secretary of the Army to look into it -- So
have Senators Amy Klobuchar and Norm Coleman.
Klobuchar said the GI money "shouldn't be tied up in red tape," and Coleman
said it's "simply irresponsible to deny education benefits to those soldiers
who just completed the longest tour of duty of any unit in Iraq."
Anderson said the soldiers he oversaw in his platoon expected that money to
be here when they come home.
"I had 23 guys under my command," Anderson said. "I promised to take care of
them. And I'm not going to end taking care of them when this deployment is
over, and it's not over until this is solved."
The Army did not respond questions Tuesday afternoon.
Senators Klobuchar and Coleman released a joint statement saying the Army
secretary, Pete Geren, is looking into this personally, and they say Geren
asked a review board to expedite its review so the matter could be solved by
next semester.
Minnesota National Guard spokesman Lt. Col. Kevin Olson said the soldiers
are "victims of a significant injustice."
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Other outrageous tidbits:
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Defense Department officials agreed yesterday that changes are needed to the
Montgomery GI Bill for the Selected Reserve, as well as the Reserve
Educational Assistance Program.=20
However, both Thomas L. Bush, acting deputy assistant secretary of defense
for reserve affairs, and Curtis L. Gilroy, the Pentagon's director for
accession policy, said such a measure doesn't fit the program's purpose: to
recruit and retain members.=20
They said they believe the Defense Department can actually be too generous
in granting GI Bill benefits.=20
http://www.gxonline.com/gxintelnews?id=3D52458
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Iowa soldiers also shortchanged:
http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/20071013/NEWS/7101=
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<DIV class=3D"gtv_headline"><SPAN class=3D"515455322-09112007">- Pat Elder</=
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<DIV class=3D"gtv_author"> MINNEAPOLIS, MN (NBC) -- When they came home=
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Iraq, 2,600 members of the Minnesota National Guard had been deployed longer=
=20
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extended as part of President Bush's surge.</DIV>
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<DIV align=3D"left">1st Lt. Jon Anderson said he never expected to come home=
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this: A government refusing to pay education benefits he says he should have=
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earned under the GI bill.<BR><BR>"It's pretty much a slap in the face," Ande=
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said. "I think it was a scheme to save money, personally. I think it was a=
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leadership failure by the senior Washington leadership..<wbr>. once again fa=
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soldiers."<BR><BR>Anderson's orders, and the orders of 1,161 other Minnesota=
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guard members, were written for 729 days. <BR><BR>Had they been written for =
730=20
days, just one day more, the soldiers would receive those benefits to pay fo=
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school.<BR><BR>"Which would be allowing the soldiers an extra $500 to $800 a=
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month," Anderson said.<BR><BR>That money would help him pay for his master's=
=20
degree in public administration. It would help Anderson's fellow platoon lea=
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John Hobot, pay for a degree in law enforcement.<BR><BR>"I would assume, and=
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would hope, that when I get back from a deployment of 22 months, my senior=
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leadership in Washington, the leadership that extended us in the first place=
,=20
would take care of us once we got home," Hobot said.<BR><BR>Both Hobot and=
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Anderson believe the Pentagon deliberately wrote orders for 729 days instead=
of=20
730. Now, six of Minnesota's members of the House of Representatives have as=
ked=20
the Secretary of the Army to look into it -- So have Senators Amy Klobuchar =
and=20
Norm Coleman.<BR><BR>Klobuchar said the GI money "shouldn't be tied up in re=
d=20
tape," and Coleman said it's "simply irresponsible to deny education benefit=
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those soldiers who just completed the longest tour of duty of any unit in=20
Iraq."<BR><BR>Anderson said the soldiers he oversaw in his platoon expected =
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Anderson said. "I promised to take care of them. And I'm not going to end ta=
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care of them when this deployment is over, and it's not over until this is=
=20
solved."<BR><BR>The Army did not respond questions Tuesday=20
afternoon.<BR><BR>Senators Klobuchar and Coleman released a joint statement=
=20
saying the Army secretary, Pete Geren, is looking into this personally, and =
they=20
say Geren asked a review board to expedite its review so the matter could be=
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solved by next semester.<BR><BR>Minnesota National Guard spokesman Lt. Col.=
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deputy assistant secretary of defense for reserve affairs, and Curtis L. Gil=
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the Pentagon's director for accession policy, said such a measure doesn't fi=
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The orders of 1,161 Minnesota guard members were written for 729 days. Had
they been written for 730 days, just one day more, the soldiers would have
received benefits to pay for college.
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- Pat Elder
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National Guard Troops Denied Benefits After Longest Deployment Of Iraq War
http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=3D71741
MINNEAPOLIS, MN (NBC) -- When they came home from Iraq, 2,600 members of
the Minnesota National Guard had been deployed longer than any other ground
combat unit. The tour lasted 22 months and had been extended as part of
President Bush's surge.
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1st Lt. Jon Anderson said he never expected to come home to this: A
government refusing to pay education benefits he says he should have earned
under the GI bill.
"It's pretty much a slap in the face," Anderson said. "I think it was a
scheme to save money, personally. I think it was a leadership failure by the
senior Washington leadership... once again failing the soldiers."
Anderson's orders, and the orders of 1,161 other Minnesota guard members,
were written for 729 days.=20
Had they been written for 730 days, just one day more, the soldiers would
receive those benefits to pay for school.
"Which would be allowing the soldiers an extra $500 to $800 a month,"
Anderson said.
That money would help him pay for his master's degree in public
administration. It would help Anderson's fellow platoon leader, John Hobot,
pay for a degree in law enforcement.
"I would assume, and I would hope, that when I get back from a deployment of
22 months, my senior leadership in Washington, the leadership that extended
us in the first place, would take care of us once we got home," Hobot said.
Both Hobot and Anderson believe the Pentagon deliberately wrote orders for
729 days instead of 730. Now, six of Minnesota's members of the House of
Representatives have asked the Secretary of the Army to look into it -- So
have Senators Amy Klobuchar and Norm Coleman.
Klobuchar said the GI money "shouldn't be tied up in red tape," and Coleman
said it's "simply irresponsible to deny education benefits to those soldiers
who just completed the longest tour of duty of any unit in Iraq."
Anderson said the soldiers he oversaw in his platoon expected that money to
be here when they come home.
"I had 23 guys under my command," Anderson said. "I promised to take care of
them. And I'm not going to end taking care of them when this deployment is
over, and it's not over until this is solved."
The Army did not respond questions Tuesday afternoon.
Senators Klobuchar and Coleman released a joint statement saying the Army
secretary, Pete Geren, is looking into this personally, and they say Geren
asked a review board to expedite its review so the matter could be solved by
next semester.
Minnesota National Guard spokesman Lt. Col. Kevin Olson said the soldiers
are "victims of a significant injustice."
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Defense Department officials agreed yesterday that changes are needed to the
Montgomery GI Bill for the Selected Reserve, as well as the Reserve
Educational Assistance Program.=20
However, both Thomas L. Bush, acting deputy assistant secretary of defense
for reserve affairs, and Curtis L. Gilroy, the Pentagon's director for
accession policy, said such a measure doesn't fit the program's purpose: to
recruit and retain members.=20
They said they believe the Defense Department can actually be too generous
in granting GI Bill benefits.=20
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written for 729 days. Had they been written for 730 days, just one day more,=
the=20
soldiers would<SPAN class=3D"515455322-09112007"> have</SPAN> receive<S=
PAN class=3D"515455322-09112007">d</SPAN> benefits to pay for <SPAN cla=
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<DIV class=3D"gtv_headline"><SPAN class=3D"515455322-09112007">- Pat Elder</=
SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=3D"gtv_headline"> </DIV>
<DIV class=3D"gtv_headline"><STRONG>National Guard Troops Denied Benefits Af=
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Longest Deployment Of Iraq War</STRONG><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3D"gtv_headline"><A href=3D"http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article.asp=
x?storyid=3D71741">http://www.wcsh6.<wbr>com/news/<wbr>article.aspx?<wbr>sto=
ryid=3D71741</A></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=3D"gtv_author"> MINNEAPOLIS, MN (NBC) -- When they came home=
from=20
Iraq, 2,600 members of the Minnesota National Guard had been deployed longer=
=20
than any other ground combat unit. The tour lasted 22 months and had been=20
extended as part of President Bush's surge.</DIV>
<DIV align=3D"left"> </DIV>
<DIV align=3D"left">1st Lt. Jon Anderson said he never expected to come home=
to=20
this: A government refusing to pay education benefits he says he should have=
=20
earned under the GI bill.<BR><BR>"It's pretty much a slap in the face," Ande=
rson=20
said. "I think it was a scheme to save money, personally. I think it was a=
=20
leadership failure by the senior Washington leadership..<wbr>. once again fa=
iling the=20
soldiers."<BR><BR>Anderson's orders, and the orders of 1,161 other Minnesota=
=20
guard members, were written for 729 days. <BR><BR>Had they been written for =
730=20
days, just one day more, the soldiers would receive those benefits to pay fo=
r=20
school.<BR><BR>"Which would be allowing the soldiers an extra $500 to $800 a=
=20
month," Anderson said.<BR><BR>That money would help him pay for his master's=
=20
degree in public administration. It would help Anderson's fellow platoon lea=
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John Hobot, pay for a degree in law enforcement.<BR><BR>"I would assume, and=
I=20
would hope, that when I get back from a deployment of 22 months, my senior=
=20
leadership in Washington, the leadership that extended us in the first place=
,=20
would take care of us once we got home," Hobot said.<BR><BR>Both Hobot and=
=20
Anderson believe the Pentagon deliberately wrote orders for 729 days instead=
of=20
730. Now, six of Minnesota's members of the House of Representatives have as=
ked=20
the Secretary of the Army to look into it -- So have Senators Amy Klobuchar =
and=20
Norm Coleman.<BR><BR>Klobuchar said the GI money "shouldn't be tied up in re=
d=20
tape," and Coleman said it's "simply irresponsible to deny education benefit=
s to=20
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that=20
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Anderson said. "I promised to take care of them. And I'm not going to end ta=
king=20
care of them when this deployment is over, and it's not over until this is=
=20
solved."<BR><BR>The Army did not respond questions Tuesday=20
afternoon.<BR><BR>Senators Klobuchar and Coleman released a joint statement=
=20
saying the Army secretary, Pete Geren, is looking into this personally, and =
they=20
say Geren asked a review board to expedite its review so the matter could be=
=20
solved by next semester.<BR><BR>Minnesota National Guard spokesman Lt. Col.=
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<DIV class=3D"gtv_source"><SPAN class=3D"515455322-09112007">Other outrageou=
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tidbits:</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=3D"gtv_source"><SPAN class=3D"515455322-09112007"><FONT size=3D"2=
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Educational Assistance Program. <BR><BR>However, both Thomas L. Bush, acting=
=20
deputy assistant secretary of defense for reserve affairs, and Curtis L. Gil=
roy,=20
the Pentagon's director for accession policy, said such a measure doesn't fi=
t=20
the program's purpose: to recruit and retain members. <BR><BR>They said they=
=20
believe the Defense Department can actually be too generous in granting GI B=
ill=20
benefits.</FONT> </FONT><BR><A href=3D"http://www.gxonline.com/gxintelnews?i=
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