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From: "Ronald Kinum" GreenPartyRon@mail.org
To: GreenDiscussionGroup@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: [GreenDiscussionGroup] Author of Apollo's Fire Was Disingenuous
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:27:18 -0000


Tonight, at 7:00 PM on November 12, 2007, I attended the
on-radio book review of U.S. Congressman (Washington) Jay
Inslee's new environmental energy book, APOLLO'S FIRE,
co-authored with Bracken Hendricks. The review was held
at the Prarie Lights Book Store in Iowa City, Iowa.

I showed at the event and sat in the front row with my
Green Party hat and my large Hydrogen poster, and he
immediately showed an aversion to me. John Deeth also
appeard and will probably make a very accurate blog on
the event. Here is my account of the event.

I found the Congressman to be evasive and politely but
yet quite pro-establishment in his presentation and in
his book. I only bought his book this afternoon, after
I had checked one of my electronic messages this morning
and discovered this event, so I did not have the chance
to look through his entire writing. However, as I am
a TOTAL Hydrogen fuel advocate, I immediately checked
for an index, and I found that hydrogen is listed as
follows: "Hydrogen, xix, 59-61, 62".

To my astonishment, there was NEITHER ANY MENTION OF
HYDROGEN FUEL in the index NOR ANY MENTION OF HYDROGEN
FUEL IN THE TEXT from pages 59 to 62, as well as the
there was no roman-numeral page xviii in the introduction,
the book simply did not go so far as a page xix.

Congressman Jay Inslee's question and answer period with
Julie Englander was a long dissertation on very
questionable viewpoints on alternative engergy, and like
"a politician", Inslee's direction in his talk went all
around the topic but showed he really had not entered
into any research of substance. I believe that he simply
heard and read things and pursued those as leads, without
doing the necessary digging-in follow-up research to find
as much information as he could.

For one thing, he pretty much regurgitates the propaganda
that our US Government and international corporations
have told the news media to limit in providing public
"information". Bio-fuels was endorsed in his discussion
as though there are no concerns about it, which, of
course, there most definitely is: bio-fuel is a dirty
fuel, it is not "green", and is not endorsed by Green
Party for a half dozen reasons. He promotes the idea of
a very multi-faceted mix of solutions to carbon fuels,
including wind energy, which also has major draw-backs and
also is not endorsed by Green Party as a commercial "wind
farm" method for alternative energy, for about three
major reasons that, again, Inslee does not investigate.
Green Party DOES, however, endorse personal, individual
"windmill" style electric generators which are small and
do not effect avian flyways for the most part.

In the public question and answer session, I was the first
to speak, and I pointed out that nowhere in pages 59 to
62 is there any mention of pure hydrogen. I pointed out
that fuel cells are NOT hydrogen technology, it really
amounts to a "cop-out" on using hydrogen for a direct
fuel source. I neglected to follow all of my notes to
say as I had originally planned to, "...And the very
term is a misnomer, a fuel cell is simply a fuel storage
device which gasolline-powered race cars have been using
for decades." I said that pure hydrogen is a proven
fuel source that has been successfully used in our nation
for the past two decades, it is not a potential fuel, it
is a proven fuel, but our government and the
international corporations have a war against hydrogen
as a fuel source.

I asked the Congressman if, in his research, he had ever
come across the name of Purdue University Professor
Jerry Woodall, who received the National Medal of
Technology which was presented to him in the White
House? He said no he hadn't.

Then he danced around the issue, noting my hydrogen
poster (I will duplicate the wording at the end of this
report) and he mis-stated that the result of hydrogen is
pure crystal clear water... well, it is 98% water vapor,
not water! He leaned very heavily on the false notion
that hydrogen had not yet proven itself, which inspired
my ire, and he continued with his presentation on fuel
cells, which is not hydrogen fuel energy in the least,
it is used to regenerate electric batteries for electric
cars, rather than to use it as a fuel.

There were some other very good questions, one of which
came from a man who presented a very humorous joke about
how the Congressman might incur the side effect of
actually giving congresspeople a good name! Then the
question on trade caps for emissions being not as good
as outright taxes on emissions as a deterrent for
global warming pollution violations. Can you believe
the answer? The Congressman favors controls over our
NATION'S OVERALL POLLUTION CONTRIBUTION TO THE NATIONAL
ATMOSPHERE, not on individual industrial sites and
corporations that do not comply, and, he favors that the
industry making the cleaner-air modifications should be
trading or selling their credits for clean industrial
emissions, so that the companies that clean up their
emissions will sell their credits to polluters, and thus
pay for progress for the cleaner air by allowing the
companies who "cannot" improve their emissions to go
on polluting! I do not buy that.

At the end of the presentation, I presented my copy of
Apollo's Fire for signing, and just like Ralph Nader,
he did not sign my book "To Libris Fidelis", he just
wrote "to Libris--", and then I gave the Congressman my
printed information on Purdue University Professor Jerry
Woodall, who discovered that aluminum pellets attract
oxygen from hydrogen in water, thus freeing the hydrogen
for use at the rate that the user wishes (i.e. for an
automobile), and I left Prarie Lights.

My poster is out-of-date, which I explained to the
Congressman, but here is what it says:

HYDROGEN the only self-replenishing natural
fuel that does not require renewal

Yes 1: Hydrogen is obtained by separating it from water
(H2O) using electricity that the
hydrogen-producing facility creates itself

Yes 2: Burning hydrogen in internal-combustion engines
results in exhaust that is 98% water vapor,
replenishing our environment

Yes 3: If a neighborhood purchases and converts one
house into a safe co-op neighborhood
hydrogen-electric power plant:

* cost of one hydrogen processing unit (in 1998)
$44,000
* add one hydrogen-fueled internal combustion
engine and one electric generator, connecting
to all membership homes
* produces more electricity than one neighborhood
can use, costing only for municipal water and
periodic maintenance - free from power grid
"brown-outs" and peak demand surcharges, and
there already are hydrogen vehicles and a
hundred hotels in our USA using it

No! Bio-fuels (ehanol, bio-diesel) are created from soy,
sugar cane, cereal, oil seed or animal fat PLUS
gasoline - which takes away farm acrage from
agriculture dedicated to food production, and
mono-agriculture does not rotate crops which
destroys soil fertility for generations

No! Bio-fuels contribute pollution of CO2 and Greenhouse
gas both in their manufacture and use, not reduce
those pollutants, and used PETROLEUM.

Now, the cost has risen by $100,000 since 1998 for the
cost of connecting all of the homes to the neighborhood
hydrogen power plant, probably because of the rapid rise
in the cost of copper wire. I also did not know about
Jerry Woodall and his attempts to get our government to
sponsor (fund) his research in REPROCESSING the aluminum
pellets, the only drawback so far in making pure
hydrogen be cheaper than gasoline. The Department of
Energy immediately returns his application for grants to
fund his research, and does not even consider his
applications! DOE has funded grants of several millions
to the wind and solar technology researchers because that
will not eliminate commercial electrical generating
stations (many coal-fired) and gasoline stations, since
consumers will make their own energy out of water!

Ronald Kinum
a.k.a. Libris Fidelis

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<DIV>From: "Ronald Kinum" GreenPartyRon@mail.org <BR>To: GreenDiscussionGro=
up@yahoogroups.com <BR>CC: <BR>Subject: [GreenDiscussionGroup] Author of Ap=
ollo's Fire Was Disingenuous <BR>Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:27:18 -0000 <BR>=
<BR><BR>Tonight, at 7:00 PM on November 12, 2007, I attended the <BR>on-rad=
io book review of U.S. Congressman (Washington) Jay <BR>Inslee's new enviro=
nmental energy book, APOLLO'S FIRE, <BR>co-authored with Bracken Hendricks.=
 The review was held <BR>at the Prarie Lights Book Store in Iowa City, Iowa=
. <BR><BR>I showed at the event and sat in the front row with my <BR>Green =
Party hat and my large Hydrogen poster, and he <BR>immediately showed an av=
ersion to me. John Deeth also <BR>appeard and will probably make a very acc=
urate blog on <BR>the event. Here is my account of the event. <BR><BR>I fou=
nd the Congressman to be evasive and politely but <BR>yet quite pro-establi=
shment in his presentation and in <BR>his book. I only bought his book this=
 afternoon, after <BR>I had checked one of my electronic messages this morn=
ing <BR>and discovered this event, so I did not have the chance <BR>to look=
 through his entire writing. However, as I am <BR>a TOTAL Hydrogen fuel adv=
ocate, I immediately checked <BR>for an index, and I found that hydrogen is=
 listed as <BR>follows: "Hydrogen, xix, 59-61, 62". <BR><BR>To my astonishm=
ent, there was NEITHER ANY&nbsp;MENTION OF <BR>HYDROGEN FUEL in the index N=
OR ANY MENTION OF HYDROGEN <BR>FUEL IN THE TEXT from pages 59 to 62, as wel=
l as the <BR>there was no roman-numeral page xviii in the introduction, <BR=
>the book simply did not go so far as a page xix. <BR><BR>Congressman Jay I=
nslee's question and answer period with <BR>Julie Englander was a long diss=
ertation on very <BR>questionable viewpoints on alternative engergy, and li=
ke <BR>"a politician", Inslee's direction in his talk went all <BR>around t=
he topic but showed he really had not entered <BR>into any research of subs=
tance. I believe that he simply <BR>heard and read things and pursued those=
 as leads, without <BR>doing the necessary digging-in follow-up research to=
 find <BR>as much information as he could. <BR><BR>For one thing, he pretty=
 much regurgitates the propaganda <BR>that our US Government and internatio=
nal corporations <BR>have told the news media to limit in providing public =
<BR>"information". Bio-fuels was endorsed in his discussion <BR>as though t=
here are no concerns about it, which, of <BR>course, there most definitely =
is: bio-fuel is a dirty <BR>fuel, it is not "green", and is not endorsed by=
 Green <BR>Party for a half dozen reasons. He promotes the idea of <BR>a ve=
ry multi-faceted mix of solutions to carbon fuels, <BR>including wind energ=
y, which also has major draw-backs and <BR>also is not endorsed by Green Pa=
rty as a commercial "wind <BR>farm" method for alternative energy, for abou=
t three <BR>major reasons that, again, Inslee does not investigate. <BR>Gre=
en Party DOES, however, endorse personal, individual <BR>"windmill" style e=
lectric generators which are small and <BR>do not effect avian flyways for =
the most part. <BR><BR>In the public question and answer session, I was the=
 first <BR>to speak, and I pointed out that nowhere in pages 59 to <BR>62 i=
s there any mention of pure hydrogen. I pointed out <BR>that fuel cells are=
 NOT hydrogen technology, it really <BR>amounts to a "cop-out" on using hyd=
rogen for a direct <BR>fuel source. I neglected to follow all of my notes t=
o <BR>say as I had originally planned to, "...And the very <BR>term is a mi=
snomer, a fuel cell is simply a fuel storage <BR>device which gasolline-pow=
ered race cars have been using <BR>for decades." I said that pure hydrogen =
is a proven <BR>fuel source that has been successfully used in our nation <=
BR>for the past two decades, it is not a potential fuel, it <BR>is a proven=
 fuel, but our government and the <BR>international corporations have a war=
 against hydrogen <BR>as a fuel source. <BR><BR>I asked the Congressman if,=
 in his research, he had ever <BR>come across the name of Purdue University=
 Professor <BR>Jerry Woodall, who received the National Medal of <BR>Techno=
logy which was presented to him in the White <BR>House? He said no he hadn'=
t. <BR><BR>Then he danced around the issue, noting my hydrogen <BR>poster (=
I will duplicate the wording at the end of this <BR>report) and he mis-stat=
ed that the result of hydrogen is <BR>pure crystal clear water... well, it =
is 98% water vapor, <BR>not water! He leaned very heavily on the false noti=
on <BR>that hydrogen had not yet proven itself, which inspired <BR>my ire, =
and he continued with his presentation on fuel <BR>cells, which is not hydr=
ogen fuel energy in the least, <BR>it is used to regenerate electric batter=
ies for electric <BR>cars, rather than to use it as a fuel. <BR><BR>There w=
ere some other very good questions, one of which <BR>came from a man who pr=
esented a very humorous joke about <BR>how the Congressman might incur the =
side effect of <BR>actually giving congresspeople a good name! Then the <BR=
>question on trade caps for emissions being not as good <BR>as outright tax=
es on emissions as a deterrent for <BR>global warming pollution violations.=
 Can you believe <BR>the answer? The Congressman favors controls over our <=
BR>NATION'S OVERALL POLLUTION CONTRIBUTION TO THE NATIONAL <BR>ATMOSPHERE, =
not on individual industrial sites and <BR>corporations that do not comply,=
 and, he favors that the <BR>industry making the cleaner-air modifications =
should be <BR>trading or selling their credits for clean industrial <BR>emi=
ssions, so that the companies that clean up their <BR>emissions will sell t=
heir credits to polluters, and thus <BR>pay for progress for the cleaner ai=
r by allowing the <BR>companies who "cannot" improve their emissions to go =
<BR>on polluting! I do not buy that. <BR><BR>At the end of the presentation=
, I presented my copy of <BR>Apollo's Fire for signing, and just like Ralph=
 Nader, <BR>he did not sign my book "To Libris Fidelis", he just <BR>wrote =
"to Libris--", and then I gave the Congressman my <BR>printed information o=
n Purdue University Professor Jerry <BR>Woodall, who discovered that alumin=
um pellets attract <BR>oxygen from hydrogen in water, thus freeing the hydr=
ogen <BR>for use at the rate that the user wishes (i.e. for an <BR>automobi=
le), and I left Prarie Lights. <BR><BR>My poster is out-of-date, which I ex=
plained to the <BR>Congressman, but here is what it says: <BR><BR>HYDROGEN =
the only self-replenishing natural <BR>fuel that does not require renewal <=
BR><BR>Yes 1: Hydrogen is obtained by separating it from water <BR>(H2O) us=
ing electricity that the <BR>hydrogen-producing facility creates itself <BR=
><BR>Yes 2: Burning hydrogen in internal-combustion engines <BR>results in =
exhaust that is 98% water vapor, <BR>replenishing our environment <BR><BR>Y=
es 3: If a neighborhood purchases and converts one <BR>house into a safe co=
-op neighborhood <BR>hydrogen-electric power plant: <BR><BR>* cost of one h=
ydrogen processing unit (in 1998) <BR>$44,000 <BR>* add one hydrogen-fueled=
 internal combustion <BR>engine and one electric generator, connecting <BR>=
to all membership homes <BR>* produces more electricity than one neighborho=
od <BR>can use, costing only for municipal water and <BR>periodic maintenan=
ce - free from power grid <BR>"brown-outs" and peak demand surcharges, and =
<BR>there already are hydrogen vehicles and a <BR>hundred hotels in our USA=
 using it <BR><BR>No! Bio-fuels (ehanol, bio-diesel) are created from soy, =
<BR>sugar cane, cereal, oil seed or animal fat PLUS <BR>gasoline - which ta=
kes away farm acrage from <BR>agriculture dedicated to food production, and=
 <BR>mono-agriculture does not rotate crops which <BR>destroys soil fertili=
ty for generations <BR><BR>No! Bio-fuels contribute pollution of CO2 and Gr=
eenhouse <BR>gas both in their manufacture and use, not reduce <BR>those po=
llutants, and used PETROLEUM. <BR><BR>Now, the cost has risen by $100,000 s=
ince 1998 for the <BR>cost of connecting all of the homes to the neighborho=
od <BR>hydrogen power plant, probably because of the rapid rise <BR>in the =
cost of copper wire. I also did not know about <BR>Jerry Woodall and his at=
tempts to get our government to <BR>sponsor (fund) his research in REPROCES=
SING the aluminum <BR>pellets, the only drawback so far in making pure <BR>=
hydrogen be cheaper than gasoline. The Department of <BR>Energy immediately=
 returns his application for grants to <BR>fund his research, and does not =
even consider his <BR>applications! DOE has funded grants of several millio=
ns <BR>to the wind and solar technology researchers because that <BR>will n=
ot eliminate commercial electrical generating <BR>stations (many coal-fired=
) and gasoline stations, since <BR>consumers will make their own energy out=
 of water! <BR><BR>Ronald Kinum <BR>a.k.a. Libris Fidelis <BR><BR></DIV></D=
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