[Peace-discussion] I would love to see us listed as an endorser and GPUS listed as a Sponsor!!!

Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:43:09 -0500

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I would be very nervous about the Green Party endorsing the  
establishment of a Department of Peace in the US federal govt.  Some  
of the endorsing groups (e.g., Amnesty International) are liberal  
imperialist groups that have encouraged the US to launch imperialist  
wars on "humanitarian" pretexts. Some of the sponsoring groups (e.g.,  
AI again, Tikkun, etc.) are Zionist groups. There are some good  
groups endorsing too. But the main reason I'm nervous about this  
isn't because of who is involved in this initiative but rather  
because it is a bad concept. The US government is a negative force in  
the world. The US government has a history of getting involved in  
many conflicts with the stated goal of working for "peace".  These  
operations have generally been disingenuous and have resulted in  
terrible suffering for millions of people.  The people of the USA  
need to learn to be humble and not to think that we can provide the  
solutions to fix the world's problems. People around the world and in  
the USA need to have self-determination and control over their own  
resources.  The US government cannot be allowed to be the policeman  
or "peacekeeper" of the world.  A department of "peace", trying to  
figure out how to intervene here there  and everywhere, could be a  
very bad thing.  We should shut down the US govt's Department of War  
but not replace it with a Department of "Peace".  The Department of  
War already has an Orwellian euphemistic name: Department of  
"Defense".  "Peace" would just be another meaningless word meaning war.

- David Rolde
GRP of MA

On Dec 9, 2006, at 8:27 PM, Joni LeViness wrote:

> http://www.thepeacealliance.org/content/view/50/127/
> what do you all think?
> Peace,
> joni

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-khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">I would be very nervous about =
the Green Party endorsing the establishment of a Department of Peace in =
the US federal govt.=A0 Some of the endorsing groups (e.g., Amnesty =
International) are liberal imperialist groups that have encouraged the =
US to launch imperialist wars on "humanitarian" pretexts. Some of the =
sponsoring groups (e.g., AI again, Tikkun, etc.) are Zionist groups. =
There are some good groups endorsing too. But the main reason I'm =
nervous about this isn't because of who is involved in this initiative =
but rather because it is a bad concept. The US government is a negative =
force in the world. The US government has a history of getting involved =
in many conflicts with the stated goal of working for "peace".=A0 These =
operations have generally been disingenuous and have resulted in =
terrible suffering for millions of people.=A0 The people of the USA need =
to learn to be humble and not to think that we can provide the solutions =
to fix the world's problems. People around the world and in the USA need =
to have self-determination and control over their own resources.=A0 The =
US government cannot be allowed to be the policeman or "peacekeeper" of =
the world.=A0 A department of "peace", trying to figure out how to =
intervene here there=A0 and everywhere, could be a very bad thing.=A0 We =
should shut down the US govt's Department of War but not replace it with =
a Department of "Peace".=A0 The Department of War already has an =
Orwellian euphemistic name: Department of "Defense".=A0 "Peace" would =
just be another meaningless word meaning war.=A0<DIV><BR =
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