[Peace-discussion] I would love to see us listed as an endorser and GPUS listed as a Sponsor!!!
Joni LeViness
myths16@cox.net
Sun, 10 Dec 2006 19:35:08 -0600
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I'm not seeing this at all David.
What i see is a paradigm shift from the Dept. of War/*in the guise of
defense, being challenged by a dept. of peace.
Peace is defined by those promoting it. None will match exactly to the
individual, but certainly there are basic human rights that fall within this
category.
Peace,
joni
p.s. i see it as not "Peacekeeper of the World" but as a Dept. within the
U.S. to adress those "oh so troubling issues" that our govt. has overlooked
for so long.
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From: David Rolde [mailto:davidrolde@comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 8:43 AM
To: Joni LeViness
Cc: peace-discussion@lists.gp-us.org; 'Scott McLarty'
Subject: Re: [Peace-discussion] I would love to see us listed as an endorser
and GPUS listed as a Sponsor!!!
I would be very nervous about the Green Party endorsing the establishment of
a Department of Peace in the US federal govt. Some of the endorsing groups
(e.g., Amnesty International) are liberal imperialist groups that have
encouraged the US to launch imperialist wars on "humanitarian" pretexts.
Some of the sponsoring groups (e.g., AI again, Tikkun, etc.) are Zionist
groups. There are some good groups endorsing too. But the main reason I'm
nervous about this isn't because of who is involved in this initiative but
rather because it is a bad concept. The US government is a negative force in
the world. The US government has a history of getting involved in many
conflicts with the stated goal of working for "peace". These operations have
generally been disingenuous and have resulted in terrible suffering for
millions of people. The people of the USA need to learn to be humble and not
to think that we can provide the solutions to fix the world's problems.
People around the world and in the USA need to have self-determination and
control over their own resources. The US government cannot be allowed to be
the policeman or "peacekeeper" of the world. A department of "peace", trying
to figure out how to intervene here there and everywhere, could be a very
bad thing. We should shut down the US govt's Department of War but not
replace it with a Department of "Peace". The Department of War already has
an Orwellian euphemistic name: Department of "Defense". "Peace" would just
be another meaningless word meaning war.
- David Rolde
GRP of MA
On Dec 9, 2006, at 8:27 PM, Joni LeViness wrote:
http://www.thepeacealliance.org/content/view/50/127/
what do you all think?
Peace,
joni
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> David Rolde=20
[mailto:davidrolde@comcast.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 10, =
2006 8:43=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Joni LeViness<BR><B>Cc:</B> =
peace-discussion@lists.gp-us.org;=20
'Scott McLarty'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discussion] I would love =
to see us=20
listed as an endorser and GPUS listed as a =
Sponsor!!!<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I would be very nervous about the Green Party endorsing the=20
establishment of a Department of Peace in the US federal govt. Some of =
the=20
endorsing groups (e.g., Amnesty International) are liberal imperialist =
groups=20
that have encouraged the US to launch imperialist wars on "humanitarian" =
pretexts. Some of the sponsoring groups (e.g., AI again, Tikkun, etc.) =
are=20
Zionist groups. There are some good groups endorsing too. But the main =
reason=20
I'm nervous about this isn't because of who is involved in this =
initiative but=20
rather because it is a bad concept. The US government is a negative =
force in the=20
world. The US government has a history of getting involved in many =
conflicts=20
with the stated goal of working for "peace". These operations have =
generally=20
been disingenuous and have resulted in terrible suffering for millions =
of=20
people. The people of the USA need to learn to be humble and not to =
think that=20
we can provide the solutions to fix the world's problems. People around =
the=20
world and in the USA need to have self-determination and control over =
their own=20
resources. The US government cannot be allowed to be the policeman or=20
"peacekeeper" of the world. A department of "peace", trying to figure =
out how to=20
intervene here there and everywhere, could be a very bad thing. We =
should shut=20
down the US govt's Department of War but not replace it with a =
Department of=20
"Peace". The Department of War already has an Orwellian euphemistic =
name:=20
Department of "Defense". "Peace" would just be another meaningless word =
meaning=20
war.=20
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<DIV>- David Rolde</DIV>
<DIV>GRP of MA
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<DIV>On Dec 9, 2006, at 8:27 PM, Joni LeViness wrote:</DIV><BR=20
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