[Peace-discussion] Re: [gpoc_discuss] Liberal Consensus for More Troops
Henry D.
henryduke2004@yahoo.com
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Liberals and neo-liberals need definition.
The neo-liberals, as Gordon points out, have been the most key supporters and promoters of the terrorism unleashed by the US after 9/11/01, along side folks calling themselves neo-conservatives and compassionate conservatives.
Some of us may get called liberals, greens, progressives, radicals or anti-terrorists and "choose-life"'ers.
The people of this world, including the people of Iraq, the United States, and the US troops themselves, by voting with their feet, their bodies, and in some cases with their hands on military equipment, will end this immoral and illegal occupation of Iraq, hastening the judgement of the criminals whose acts and ideas perpetuated these crimes.
For the troops home now -- trials and reparations tomorrow,
HD
gdjohnson2@juno.com wrote:
Some good observations below, but I'm personally getting
rather tired of hearing about Democratic "spinelessness".
Calling it that implies that they would like to do
something in opposition, but dare not. More likely,
the leadership of the Dems has been fully in agreement
with the neocons from the beginning, and continues
to be so.
--GJ
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The full essay is at:
http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn12092006.html
Weekend Edition
December 9 / 10, 2006
CounterPunch Diary
Liberal Consensus Hardens for More Troops to Iraq;
Meet Senator Slither; Farewell, Jeane Kirkpatrick
By ALEXANDER COCKBURN
Here's comes Rep Silvestre Reyes of Texas, handpicked
by Nancy Pelosi to head the House Intelligence Committee
and he's calling for 20,000 more U.S. troops to be sent to Iraq.
Reyes says they're needed to crush the Shi'a and Sunni militias.
Didn't I tell to you right here, after the Nov 7 "peace moment"
the polls, that the Democrats would fall into line behind Senator
John McCain? The minute Jack Murtha made his run for House
Majority leader the liberal establishment began to take a stand
against all seditious talk of "immediate redeployment". You can
scarcely open up the New York Times without tripping over a
piece by Michael Gordon reporting yet another thoughtful military
man--he put up General Zinni in this capacity last week--saying
that the prudent short-term course would be to send more troops
to Iraq.
Contrast this with the angry floor speech Republican Senator
Gordon Smith of Oregon, the potato kind of Pendleton, who
said straighforwardly on Thursday night that he'd had it with
the president that the US should "cut and run, cut and walk
or whatever ... "
You want more evidence of Democratic spinelessness? How
about the confirmation of Robert Gates as Secretary of
Defense by the U.S. Senate, 95 to 2. Not a single Democrat
voted against this slippery survivor of the Iran-contra scandal,
who spent the early part of his intelligence career at the CIA
and NSC, inflating the Soviet threat and leaking fictions about
the KGB plot to kill the pope to neocon fantasists like Clare
Sterling. The two No votes came from Santorum of Pennsylvania
and Bunning of Kentucky. Some of the Democrats voting Aye
this time voted No on Gates when he was up for confirmation
as Bush Sr's CIA chief back in 1991.
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<div>Liberals and neo-liberals need definition.</div> <div> </div> <div>The neo-liberals, as Gordon points out, have been the most key supporters and promoters of the terrorism unleashed by the US after 9/11/01, along side folks calling themselves neo-conservatives and compassionate conservatives.</div> <div> </div> <div>Some of us may get called liberals, greens, progressives, radicals or anti-terrorists and "choose-life"'ers.</div> <div> </div> <div>The people of this world, including the people of Iraq, the United States, and the US troops themselves, by voting with their feet, their bodies, and in some cases with their hands on military equipment, will end this immoral and illegal occupation of Iraq, hastening the judgement of the criminals whose acts and ideas perpetuated these crimes.</div> <div> </div> <div>For the troops home now -- trials and reparations tomorrow,</div> <div> </div> <div>HD</div> <div> </div>
<div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div><BR><BR><B><I>gdjohnson2@juno.com</I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><!-- Network content --><!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <DIV id=ygrp-mlmsg style="WIDTH: 655px; POSITION: relative"> <DIV id=ygrp-msg style="PADDING-RIGHT: 15px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; Z-INDEX: 1; FLOAT: left; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; WIDTH: 490px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <DIV id=ygrp-text> <div>Some good observations below, but I'm personally getting<BR>rather tired of hearing about Democratic "spinelessness"<WBR>.<BR>Calling it that implies that they would like to do<BR>something in opposition, but dare not. More likely,<BR>the leadership of the Dems has been fully in agreement<BR>with the neocons from the beginning, and continues<BR>to be
so.<BR><BR>--GJ<BR>------------<WBR>---------<WBR>---------<WBR>---------<WBR>---------<WBR>---<BR><BR>The full essay is at:<BR><A href="http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn12092006.html">http://www.counterp<WBR>unch.org/<WBR>cockburn12092006<WBR>.html</A><BR><BR>Weekend Edition<BR>December 9 / 10, 2006<BR>CounterPunch Diary<BR><BR>Liberal Consensus Hardens for More Troops to Iraq;<BR>Meet Senator Slither; Farewell, Jeane Kirkpatrick<BR>By ALEXANDER COCKBURN<BR><BR>Here's comes Rep Silvestre Reyes of Texas, handpicked<BR>by Nancy Pelosi to head the House Intelligence Committee<BR>and he's calling for 20,000 more U.S. troops to be sent to Iraq.<BR>Reyes says they're needed to crush the Shi'a and Sunni militias.<BR>Didn't I tell to you right here, after the Nov 7 "peace moment"<BR>the polls, that the Democrats would fall into line behind Senator<BR>John McCain? The minute Jack Murtha made his run for House<BR>Majority leader the liberal establishment began to take a
stand<BR>against all seditious talk of "immediate redeployment"<WBR>. You can<BR>scarcely open up the New York Times without tripping over a<BR>piece by Michael Gordon reporting yet another thoughtful military<BR>man--he put up General Zinni in this capacity last week--saying<BR>that the prudent short-term course would be to send more troops<BR>to Iraq.<BR><BR>Contrast this with the angry floor speech Republican Senator<BR>Gordon Smith of Oregon, the potato kind of Pendleton, who<BR>said straighforwardly on Thursday night that he'd had it with<BR>the president that the US should "cut and run, cut and walk<BR>or whatever ... "<BR><BR>You want more evidence of Democratic spinelessness? How<BR>about the confirmation of Robert Gates as Secretary of<BR>Defense by the U.S. Senate, 95 to 2. Not a single Democrat<BR>voted against this slippery survivor of the Iran-contra scandal,<BR>who spent the early part of his intelligence career at the CIA<BR>and NSC, inflating the Soviet
threat and leaking fictions about<BR>the KGB plot to kill the pope to neocon fantasists like Clare<BR>Sterling. The two No votes came from Santorum of Pennsylvania<BR>and Bunning of Kentucky. Some of the Democrats voting Aye<BR>this time voted No on Gates when he was up for confirmation<BR>as Bush Sr's CIA chief back in 1991.<BR>........<BR></div></DIV><!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--><SPAN style="COLOR: white" width="1">__._,_.___</SPAN> <!-- Start the section with Message In topic --> <DIV id=ygrp-actbar><SPAN class=left><A href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gpoc_discuss/message/12819;_ylc=X3oDMTM2YjFhY3VlBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI5NjI4NTgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MzY1MzcwBG1zZ0lkAzEyODE5BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTE2NTk0NDAxMgR0cGNJZAMxMjgxOQ--">Messages in this topic </A>(<SPAN class=bld>1</SPAN>) </SPAN><A
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