[Peace-discussion] FW: ddtv. defeated
Joni LeViness
myths16@cox.net
Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:20:34 -0600
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http://www.ddtv.org/
I enjoy this site and will be using this quote for OK's impaneling a grand
jury to try Cheney/Bushco,
"Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the
consent of the governed,-That whenever any Form of Government becomes
destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to
abolish it; and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such
principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem
most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
Peace and Joy in the Moment,
joni
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From: Jose Lugo [mailto:ddtv.lugo@att.net]
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 7:32 PM
To: noel; mzsam; myths; mymoney; mwmorrill; mwg@jnm.be; mwatch; muttluvr22;
mumlet@aol.com; mujeresnegrocr; mugger@nypress.com
Subject: ddtv. defeated
The voting results are in and a significant majority voted against our
resolution:
"OK, so America had an election, but did anything change?"
But we at ddtv do not see this as a defeat because we welcome different
points of view, even if they oppose our resolutions. The reason for this
vote seems to be a general consensus to give the new Democratic congress a
chance before passing judgment. Abraham Moses Genen expressed this in the
following essay.
"Be realistic Jose"
By Abraham Moses Genen
The next Congress starts in January. Between now and then organizational
work in preparation for numerous policy changes are taking place. Does
anyone with any sense believe that all of the problems of the world are
going to be resolved overnight?
There are many domestic as well as international issues that should concern
us. The economy, global warming, national health care, social security, an
assortment of wars, poverty, the specter of terrorism and numerous other
challenges affect each of us either directly or indirectly. From my
perspective a primary concern should be a dysfunctional government and the
absence of meaningful - and ethical - representation by many of the public
officials we elected.
It should be obvious that the lack of truly representative governance is at
the root of the many problems that are affecting each state, each region,
and the nation. The self-serving arrogance and indifference to the majority
of the electorate by much of the local and regional leadership in this
nation is just one part in the ongoing decline of legitimate representative
democracy.
Political power has increasingly shifted to a well-funded minority of large
corporate vested interests and dogmatic ideologues that regularly dictate
governmental policies and processes with detrimental effects on our lives
and wellbeing. This self - serving corporate plutocracy has been undermining
our rights and privileges for far too long. As part of this process
legitimate democracy has become an illusion.
We are not being properly represented and the legitimate needs and desires
of the majority of the American people are certainly not being met. The
institutionalized corruption and continuous decline of representative
democracy is clearly due to the continuous need of politicians to obtain
campaign funds.
This corruption of the democratic system is exacerbated by the entrenched
oligarchy of large corporate interests that supplies the bulk of campaign
funding to the politicians who provide them with the services they demand.
With this corruption come the attempts by many of those in power to reduce -
if not halt - the natural expansion our civil liberties, our collective
rights and our individual responsibilities.
The most effective way of reducing - and ultimately ending - this endemic
corruption of government by the well paid representatives of large selfish
corporate interests is by eliminating all the private campaign contributions
that corrupt elected officials and distract them from providing their
constituents with the services they demand. This should also help us from
being diverted from considering substantive policy issues by the highly
emotional matters promoted during elections.
Initially, our aim should be establishing an effective system of
non-partisan voluntary public funding of candidates for national, state, and
local public office. We should also gradually empower the public through an
incrementally progressive system of continuous national citizen based
initiatives and referenda on all the substantive public policy issues that
affect our lives and the lives of all future generations.
Representative governance must be administered by ethical career
professionals selected by a fully informed public electorate on the
objective basis of the candidates legislative and administrative knowledge,
skills, abilities, and desire to serve the public. In order to administer
our government effectively all public servants must be obligated to
continually provide for the legitimate rights, needs and services of the
majority while preventing abuses to the rights of minorities.
All legislators and public administrators should be required to periodically
take comprehensive written and oral examinations that demonstrate their
qualifications, competence and continued understanding of the publics
evolving needs and desires. The results of such examinations should be the
basis of critical and objective examination by the public without the
pervasive bias and superficiality of political advertising. Only then can
the people of this nation make the fully informed value judgments necessary
to insure meaningful representation by our public servants.
Empowered self - governance is clearly the most meaningful and fulfilling
form of governance. Our ultimate goal should be a system of direct democracy
with optimal and ethical self - regulation administered by career public
servants dedicated to serving the public. Objective evaluations based on
critical thinking skills must reflect our growing abilities to make the
fully informed ethical judgments necessary for the increased controls we
need to promote a political, social and economic environment that enhance
our eternal desires for ever greater self - determination.
How many of us are willing to work toward those goals?
End.
The essay that Mr. Abraham Moses Genen opposed follows.
By Jose Lugo
This email is an electronic democracy, using it costs you nothing, but it
can make for a better world if we can get enough people involved either by a
peoples lobby to congress or as an electronic democracy where all the people
rule. To use it, just read the resolution then follow the voting
instructions below.
Resolution:
It's a few weeks since the election, so it's time to ask; did anything
change?
No.
The killing continues in Iraq, Israel, Kenya, Sri Lanka and many other
places. One third of the worlds population still does not have clean
drinking water and millions continue to die of curable diseases like
diarrhea and parasites.The United Nations remains useless.
The Republicans and Democrats all yelled at the public that they and only
they have the solution to all of humanities problems. But yet, 40 million
Americans still do not have health insurance, workers pensions are still
being destroyed by greedy corporations. The whole justice system is a joke,
as proved by O.J. Simpson who is flaunting the public with his stupid book
"If I did it". Yea, right.
The only thing the Democrats and Republicans have achieved so far is
sticking to the gentlemen's agreement they made not to talk to the public
about who is funding their campaigns. But Alan Hevesi did manage to save
some money by having tax payers pay for his wife's chauffeur. Also, all that
unused campaign money that was donated is quietly disappearing.
I guess the major issue of the campaign was the war in Iraq, where the
Democrats shouted that they have the solution for the war. But now that the
election is over and they have the congressional majority they wanted, they
are strangely quiet about the war. Someone said they're forming a committee
to research it or something.
OK, so this essay is a little negative, But there just may be one little
bright spot in it. Eliot Spitzer gov. elect of New York State has said that
he will rally the public if entrenched interests in Albany resist reform and
spending cuts. I mean, what is he talking about, he can't mean using the
mass media to get the public involved in government operations or the
electronic democracy I have been promoting for ten
years................HHMMMMMM.............interesting....................
but we will have to wait and see about this one.
So, what do you think?
Did this election accomplish anything?
If you think Abraham Moses Gwnen is right, send a blank email to
4it@ddtv.org
If you think Jose is right, send a blank email to against-it@ddtv.org
If you don't like to click on links (I don't blame you) then call
718-821-3706. be brief.
If you want to get off our email list, or send us an essay to publish to our
list or if you have other business with us, send email to lugo@ddtv.org
Our last essay "Is worldcantwait.org" a fascist organization or a democratic
organization got a vote that said that it is fascist.
We also received one email accusing us of being spammers. We are not
spammers, if you believe we are spammers, let us know and we will take you
off our list right away. We have nearly 2,000 readers who enjoy our essays
and we will continue to engage them in this democratic process.
But, remember:
Democracy is not a spectator sport.
visit our web page www.ddtv.org
This essay can be copied only in its entirety with authors name an contact
information included. All other rights reserved.
Jose Lugo, Direct Democracy TV
432 East 14 Street
#1741
New York, NY 10009
phone, 718-821-3706
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> Jose Lugo =
[mailto:ddtv.lugo@att.net]=20
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 16, 2006 7:32 PM<BR><B>To:</B> noel; =
mzsam;=20
myths; mymoney; mwmorrill; mwg@jnm.be; mwatch; muttluvr22; =
mumlet@aol.com;=20
mujeresnegrocr; mugger@nypress.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> ddtv.=20
defeated<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The voting results are in and a =
significant=20
majority voted against our resolution:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> "OK, so America had an election, =
but did=20
anything change?" </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But we at ddtv do not see this as a =
defeat because=20
we welcome different points of view, even if they oppose our =
resolutions. The=20
reason for this vote seems to be a general consensus to give the new =
Democratic=20
congress a chance before passing judgment. Abraham Moses Genen expressed =
this in=20
the following essay.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Be realistic Jose"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>By Abraham Moses Genen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The next Congress starts in January. =
Between now=20
and then organizational work in preparation for numerous policy changes =
are=20
taking place. Does anyone with any sense believe that all of the =
problems of the=20
world are going to be resolved overnight?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There are many domestic as well as =
international=20
issues that should concern us. The economy, global warming, national =
health=20
care, social security, an assortment of wars, poverty, the specter of =
terrorism=20
and numerous other challenges affect each of us either directly or =
indirectly.=20
From my perspective a primary concern should be a dysfunctional =
government=20
and the absence of meaningful - and ethical - representation by =
many of=20
the public officials we elected.</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It should be obvious that the lack of =
truly=20
representative governance is at the root of the many problems that are =
affecting=20
each state, each region, and the nation. The self-serving arrogance and=20
indifference to the majority of the electorate by much of the local and =
regional=20
leadership in this nation is just one part in the ongoing decline of =
legitimate=20
representative democracy. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Political power has increasingly =
shifted to a=20
well-funded minority of large corporate vested interests and dogmatic =
ideologues=20
that regularly dictate governmental policies and processes with =
detrimental=20
effects on our lives and wellbeing. This self - serving corporate =
plutocracy has=20
been undermining our rights and privileges for far too long. As part of =
this=20
process legitimate democracy has become an illusion.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We are not being properly represented =
and the=20
legitimate needs and desires of the majority of the American people are=20
certainly not being met. The institutionalized corruption and continuous =
decline=20
of representative democracy is clearly due to the continuous need of =
politicians=20
to obtain campaign funds.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This corruption of the democratic =
system is=20
exacerbated by the entrenched oligarchy of large corporate interests =
that=20
supplies the bulk of campaign funding to the politicians who provide =
them with=20
the services they demand. With this corruption come the attempts by many =
of=20
those in power to reduce - if not halt - the natural expansion our civil =
liberties, our collective rights and our individual=20
responsibilities.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The most effective way of reducing - =
and ultimately=20
ending - this endemic corruption of government by the well paid =
representatives=20
of large selfish corporate interests is by eliminating all the private =
campaign=20
contributions that corrupt elected officials and distract them from =
providing=20
their constituents with the services they demand. This should also help =
us from=20
being diverted from considering substantive policy issues by the highly=20
emotional matters promoted during elections.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Initially, our aim should be =
establishing an=20
effective system of non-partisan voluntary public funding of candidates =
for=20
national, state, and local public office. We should also gradually =
empower the=20
public through an incrementally progressive system of continuous =
national=20
citizen based initiatives and referenda on all the substantive public =
policy=20
issues that affect our lives and the lives of all future=20
generations.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Representative governance must be =
administered by=20
ethical career professionals selected by a fully informed public =
electorate on=20
the objective basis of the candidates legislative and administrative =
knowledge,=20
skills, abilities, and desire to serve the public. In order to =
administer our=20
government effectively all public servants must be obligated to =
continually=20
provide for the legitimate rights, needs and services of the majority =
while=20
preventing abuses to the rights of minorities.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All legislators and public =
administrators should be=20
required to periodically take comprehensive written and oral =
examinations that=20
demonstrate their qualifications, competence and continued understanding =
of the=20
publics evolving needs and desires. The results of such examinations =
should be=20
the basis of critical and objective examination by the public without =
the=20
pervasive bias and superficiality of political advertising. Only then =
can the=20
people of this nation make the fully informed value judgments necessary =
to=20
insure meaningful representation by our public servants.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Empowered self - governance is clearly =
the most=20
meaningful and fulfilling form of governance. Our ultimate goal should =
be a=20
system of direct democracy with optimal and ethical self - regulation=20
administered by career public servants dedicated to serving the =
public.=20
Objective evaluations based on critical thinking skills must reflect our =
growing=20
abilities to make the fully informed ethical judgments necessary for the =
increased controls we need to promote a political, social and economic=20
environment that enhance our eternal desires for ever greater self -=20
determination.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How many of us are willing to work =
toward those=20
goals?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>End.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The essay that Mr. Abraham Moses Genen =
opposed=20
follows.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>By Jose Lugo</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This email is an electronic democracy, =
using it=20
costs you nothing, but it can make for a better world if we can get =
enough=20
people involved either by a peoples lobby to congress or as an =
electronic=20
democracy where all the people rule. To use it, just read the resolution =
then=20
follow the voting instructions below.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Resolution:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's a few weeks since the election, so =
it's time=20
to ask; did anything change?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The killing continues in Iraq, Israel, =
Kenya, Sri=20
Lanka and many other places. One third of the worlds population still =
does not=20
have clean drinking water and millions continue to die of curable =
diseases like=20
diarrhea and parasites.The United Nations remains useless.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Republicans and Democrats all =
yelled at the=20
public that they and only they have the solution to all of humanities =
problems.=20
But yet, 40 million Americans still do not have health insurance, =
workers=20
pensions are still being destroyed by greedy corporations. The whole =
justice=20
system is a joke, as proved by O.J. Simpson who is flaunting the public =
with his=20
stupid book "If I did it". Yea, right.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The only thing the Democrats and =
Republicans have=20
achieved so far is sticking to the gentlemen's agreement they made not =
to talk=20
to the public about who is funding their campaigns. But Alan Hevesi did =
manage=20
to save some money by having tax payers pay for his wife's chauffeur. =
Also, all=20
that unused campaign money that was donated is quietly=20
disappearing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I guess the major issue of the campaign =
was the war=20
in Iraq, where the Democrats shouted that they have the solution for the =
war.=20
But now that the election is over and they have the congressional =
majority they=20
wanted, they are strangely quiet about the war. Someone said they're =
forming a=20
committee to research it or something.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK, so this essay is a little negative, =
But there=20
just may be one little bright spot in it. Eliot Spitzer gov. elect of =
New York=20
State has said that he will rally the public if entrenched interests in =
Albany=20
resist reform and spending cuts. I mean, what is he talking about, he =
can't mean=20
using the mass media to get the public involved in government operations =
or the=20
electronic democracy I have been promoting for ten=20
years................HHMMMMMM.............interesting....................=
but we=20
will have to wait and see about this one.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So, what do you think?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Did this election accomplish =
anything?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you think Abraham Moses Gwnen is =
right, send a=20
blank email to <A =
href=3D"mailto:4it@ddtv.org">4it@ddtv.org</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you think Jose is right, send a =
blank email to=20
<A =
href=3D"mailto:against-it@ddtv.org">against-it@ddtv.org</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you don't like to click on links (I =
don't blame=20
you) then call 718-821-3706. be brief.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you want to get off our email list, =
or send us=20
an essay to publish to our list or if you have other business with us, =
send=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Our last essay "Is worldcantwait.org" a =
fascist=20
organization or a democratic organization got a vote that said that it =
is=20
fascist.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We also received one email =
accusing us of=20
being spammers. We are not spammers, if you believe we are spammers, let =
us know=20
and we will take you off our list right away. We have nearly 2,000 =
readers who=20
enjoy our essays and we will continue to engage them in this democratic=20
process.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But, remember:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Democracy is not a spectator =
sport.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>visit our web page <A=20
href=3D"http://www.ddtv.org">www.ddtv.org</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This essay can be copied only in its =
entirety with=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jose Lugo, Direct Democracy =
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