[Peace-discussion] Re: [AlabamaProgressives] Surprise to Womyn Rigts Activists: Did Code Pink or any Democratic Party Reformers Say Anything?
h duke
henryduke2004@yahoo.com
Wed, 12 Jul 2006 19:43:08 -0500
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Jack:
Feel free to unite with Fox-news funded Hillary Clinton, or any democrat or
lesser evil.
You can always console yourself with the simpleminded and sophmoric cliche
written by you below in all the black and white drama that you live in "a
fascist nation" and you merely wanted to win an electoral victory that still
kept our prisons, our war-complex determined to win victory in Iraq, and the
division of labor and property relations more stable.
Calling me a "republican agent"?
I would expect this from certain folks who have no intellect or integrity or
at least no learned sense of history or committment to un-mask dogma turning
closer towards truth;
Frankly it comes as a surprise to hear these public reactions from you.
I guess you are a democratic party agent; I am certainly not that;
Here in Alabama you can take pride in being an agent of the democratic
party. Your party gave us treason and the worst war in our history, your
party took away the vote from poor Whites and all blacks when your party
passed the Alabama Constitution of 1901. Your party gave us Vietnam.
I am no supporter or agent of the Republican Party.
Implying such non-sense is like Bush saying opposing his low-IQ and
treasonous conspiracy, makes us un-patriotic.
[What does this say about our leadership when someone as educated as you
makes this claim?]
I support non-electoral mass movements, and electoral politics which is
alternative.
Viability is a complicated concept buy may depend on if you are in a body
bag or one of the 18,000 Americans dead last year because of no access to
insurance, amoungst many, many other things.
TWO SCENARIOS FOR JACK and all Democratic Party Die-hard AGENTS TO THINK
ABOUT:
#1) Hillary Clinton president 51 percent of voters, 4 percent Nader, 46
percent Condaleeza Rice.
#2) Condaleeza Rice president 51 percent of voters, 10 percent Nader, 38
percent Hillary Clinton.
Under which scenario is Iraq more likely to be relieved then of its vicous
occupation?
Any cursory analysis of US history and minimally complex understanding of
politics will tell you that scenario #2 is the answer.
I am for justice, peace, and viability first; all of which are alternatives
to the corporate sponsored parties,
While I am sad you spend time attacking people like you, I merely ask that
you join me and help educate others and, as we spoke last, that you support
a non-partisan voter registration drive and get out the vote.
In any case, Keep up your good work, and don't spend all your money in the
democratic party, the rest of us need your support, leadership, and learned
wisdom,
Your friend,
Hank
PS. I wonder if NOW and feminists will appreciate the necessity of
supporting Mr Feingold after he voted yes for Arch--Conservative anti human,
anti women's right extremist activist judge Mr Roberts?
Posted by: "Jack Zylman" <mailto:jzylman@bellsouth.net?Subject=
Re%3A%20Surprise%20to%20Womyn%20Rigts%20Activists%3A%20Did%20Code%20Pink%20o
r%20any%20Democrat> jzylman@bellsouth.net
<http://profiles.yahoo.com/jzylman> jzylman
Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:39 am (PST)
In a fascist nation, you attack the viable alterative??? As not
perfect????
What we need is another pro-war Green running against an anti-war
Democrat like Senator Paul Wellstone, right?
"Cassandra?" "Republican agent" is more like it.
We need to unite to defeat the fascists who are based in the leadership
of the Republican party, and that means that we have to quit the
divisiveness that you so fondly cherish.
Rev. Jack Zylman
1321 16th Avenue South
Birmingham, AL 35205-6020
phone: 205-933-7678
cell: 205-821-0650
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Subject: [AlabamaProgressives] Surprise to Womyn Rigts Activists: Did
Code Pink or any Democratic Party Reformers Say Anything?
It's such a tired and un-proved argument that we have to vote for the
democrat this time because of the practical importance of supreme court
nominations... but what new lows for feminists and progressives as they
grovel to help their own defeat...
...
Senate Judicial Committee Democrat Russ Feingold, who voted yes to the
Right Wing Activist Judge nomination for the Chief Justice of our
Supreme Court, Mr Roberts, was awarded by the reformist Democratic Party
front group the backbone campaign.org, their special backbone award for
standing up for liberal values.
Way to go reforming democrats!
Reward the leaders, leading the way to take away womyns right to make
choices for themselves!
Reward the true democrat leaders which such spine and leadership that
they vote yes in committee for extremist, activist judges who want to
roll back civil and women's rights.
For an alternative and the quickest defeat and spoiling of the corporate
funded democratic party!
For women's and people's rights not unfettered profits and violent
patriarchy!
Henry "Cassandra" Duke
(256) 343-3289
Henry H Duke
(256) 343-3289
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<DT><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT=20
face=3DArial>Jack:</FONT></SPAN></DT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>Feel free to =
unite with=20
Fox-news funded Hillary Clinton, or any democrat or lesser evil.=20
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>You can =
always console=20
yourself with the simpleminded and sophmoric cliche written by you below =
in all=20
the black and white drama that you live in "a fascist nation" and you =
merely=20
wanted to win an electoral victory that still kept our prisons, our =
war-complex=20
determined to win victory in Iraq, and the division of labor and =
property=20
relations more stable.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>Calling me a =
"republican=20
agent"? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>I would expect =
this from=20
certain folks who have no intellect or integrity or at least no learned =
sense of=20
history or committment to un-mask dogma turning closer towards truth;=20
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>Frankly it =
comes as a=20
surprise to hear these public reactions from you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>I guess you are =
a=20
democratic party agent; I am certainly not that; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>Here in Alabama =
you can=20
take pride in being an agent of the democratic party. Your party gave us =
treason=20
and the worst war in our history, your party took away the vote from =
poor Whites=20
and all blacks when your party passed the Alabama Constitution of 1901. =
Your=20
party gave us Vietnam.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>I am no =
supporter or agent=20
of the Republican Party. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>Implying such =
non-sense is=20
like Bush saying opposing his low-IQ and treasonous conspiracy, makes us =
un-patriotic.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>[What does this =
say about=20
our leadership when someone as educated as you makes this=20
claim?]</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>I support =
non-electoral=20
mass movements, and electoral politics which is =
alternative.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>Viability is a =
complicated=20
concept buy may depend on if you are in a body bag or one of the =
18,000=20
Americans dead last year because of no access to insurance, amoungst =
many, many=20
other things.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>TWO =
SCENARIOS FOR=20
JACK and all Democratic Party Die-hard AGENTS TO THINK ABOUT:=20
</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>#1) Hillary =
Clinton=20
president 51 percent of voters, 4 percent Nader, 46 percent =
Condaleeza=20
Rice. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>#2) Condaleeza =
Rice=20
president 51 percent of voters, 10 percent Nader, 38 percent Hillary=20
Clinton.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>Under which =
scenario=20
is Iraq more likely to be relieved then of its vicous=20
occupation?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>Any cursory =
analysis of US=20
history and minimally complex understanding of politics will tell you =
that=20
scenario #2 is the answer.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>I am for =
justice, peace,=20
and viability first; all of which are alternatives to the corporate =
sponsored=20
parties,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>While I am sad =
you spend=20
time attacking people like you, I merely ask that you join me and help =
educate=20
others and, as we spoke last, that you support a non-partisan voter =
registration=20
drive and get out the vote.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>In any case, =
Keep up your=20
good work, and don't spend all your money in the democratic party, the =
rest of=20
us need your support, leadership, and learned =
wisdom,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>Your=20
friend,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial>Hank</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT face=3DArial>PS. I wonder if =
NOW and=20
feminists will appreciate the necessity of supporting Mr Feingold after =
he=20
voted yes for Arch--Conservative anti human, anti women's =
right=20
extremist activist judge Mr Roberts? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D706060400-13072006><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DT><FONT face=3DArial>Posted by: "Jack Zylman" </FONT><A=20
title=3D"mailto:jzylman@bellsouth.net?Subject=3D Re: Surprise to Womyn =
Rigts Activists: Did Code Pink or any Democrat"=20
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<H4><FONT face=3DArial>Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:39 am (PST) =
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<DIV class=3Dygrp-content><FONT face=3DArial>In a fascist nation, you =
attack the=20
viable alterative??<WBR>? As not<BR>perfect????<BR><BR>What we need is =
another=20
pro-war Green running against an anti-war<BR>Democrat like Senator Paul=20
Wellstone, right?<BR><BR>"Cassandra?" "Republican agent" is more like=20
it.<BR><BR>We need to unite to defeat the fascists who are based in the=20
leadership<BR>of the Republican party, and that means that we have to =
quit=20
the<BR>divisiveness that you so fondly cherish. <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Rev. =
Jack=20
Zylman<BR>1321 16th Avenue South<BR>Birmingham, AL 35205-6020<BR>phone:=20
205-933-7678<BR>cell: 205-821-0650<BR><BR>-----Original =
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<BR><FONT=20
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face=3DArial>Subject: [AlabamaProgressive<WBR>s] Surprise to Womyn Rigts =
Activists: Did<BR>Code Pink or any Democratic Party Reformers Say=20
Anything?<BR><BR>It's such a tired and un-proved argument that we have =
to vote=20
for the<BR>democrat this time because of the practical importance of =
supreme=20
court<BR>nominations.<WBR>.. but what new lows for feminists and =
progressives as=20
they<BR>grovel to help their own defeat...<BR>...<BR><BR>Senate Judicial =
Committee Democrat Russ Feingold, who voted yes to the<BR>Right Wing =
Activist=20
Judge nomination for the Chief Justice of our<BR>Supreme Court, Mr =
Roberts, was=20
awarded by the reformist Democratic Party<BR>front group the backbone=20
campaign.org, their special backbone award for<BR>standing up for =
liberal=20
values.<BR><BR>Way to go reforming democrats!<BR><BR>Reward the leaders, =
leading=20
the way to take away womyns right to make<BR>choices for=20
themselves!<BR><BR>Reward the true democrat leaders which such spine and =
leadership that<BR>they vote yes in committee for extremist, activist =
judges who=20
want to<BR>roll back civil and women's rights.<BR><BR><BR>For an =
alternative and=20
the quickest defeat and spoiling of the corporate<BR>funded democratic=20
party!<BR><BR>For women's and people's rights not unfettered profits and =
violent<BR>patriarchy! <BR><BR><BR>Henry "Cassandra" Duke<BR><BR>(256)=20
343-3289<BR></FONT></DIV></DD></DIV>
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