[Peace-discussion] Rangel, Democrats Denounce Hugo Chavez Praise American Chauvinism in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, and Venezuela

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As if only Americans, not illegal immigrants, not victims of Americanism,
could critisize an idea, policy, or murder.... 

I believe Rangel is from the Black Caucus and it just goes to show
you....well... 

what is leadership? 

what is national chauvinism? 

what does African-American mean in the setting of oppression here and now --
both for African Americans and others oppressed by America? 

-hank says "happy equinox" 

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Chavez for telling the truth about President 

Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:41 pm (PST) 

Hello everybody:

Lookie here! Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez decides
to tell the truth about "Dubya" at the United Nations,
and leading members of the Democratic Party like the
Charles Rangel launch a scathing attack
against him for doing such!

It's moments like these that expose the Democrats for
the phony opposition party they truly are. They fully
support President Bush's plans for world domination.
They just don't like the kind of tactics that "Dubya"
has used to achieve this goal.

Democrats attack Chavez because they fear his message
will resonate among the American public. His criticism
of Bush exposes their complicity in his crimes. If a
Bolivarian-type revolution ever hits our shores,
expect the Democrats to be thrown out of power, too.

Sincerely,

Duane J. Roberts
 <mailto:duaneroberts92804%40yahoo.com> duaneroberts92804@yahoo.com

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Democrats warn Chavez: Don't bash Bush

POSTED: 8:25 p.m. EDT, September 21, 2006

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Two of President Bush's staunchest
domestic critics leapt to his defense Thursday, a day
after one of his fiercest foreign foes called him "the
devil" in a scorching speech before the United
Nations.

"You don't come into my country; you don't come into
my congressional district and you don't condemn my
president," Rep. Charles Rangel, D-New York, scolded
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-California, was
blunt in her criticism of the Venezuelan leader. "He
is an everyday thug," she said. (Watch Rangel rip
Chavez -- 1:28 )

Chavez kept up his criticism of Bush during a visit to
Harlem on Thursday, calling the U.S. president "a sick
man" who is unqualified for the job. Chavez also said
he is expanding his heating-oil program to help
low-income Americans.

During his speech before the U.N. General Assembly on
Wednesday, Chavez launched into a caustic verbal
attack of Bush that shocked diplomats and observers
accustomed to the staid verbiage of international
diplomacy. (Full story)

"The devil came here yesterday," Chavez said,
referring to Bush, who addressed the world body during
its annual meeting Tuesday. "And it smells of sulfur
still today."

Chavez accused Bush of having spoken "as if he owned
the world" when the U.S. president addressed the world
body on Tuesday. (Watch Chavez headline a devil of a
week at the U.N. -- 2:11)

"As the spokesman of imperialism, he came to share his
nostrums to try to preserve the current pattern of
domination, exploitation and pillage of the peoples of
the world. An Alfred Hitchcock movie could use it as a
scenario. I would even propose a title: 'The Devil's
Recipe.' "

Bush's domestic foes fumed Thursday.

"If there's any criticism of President Bush, it should
be restricted to Americans, whether they voted for him
or not," Rangel said at a Washington news conference.

"I just want to make it abundantly clear to Hugo
Chavez or any other president: Don't come to the
United States and think, because we have problems with
our president, that any foreigner can come to our
country and not think that Americans do not feel
offended when you offend our chief of state," Rangel
said.

"Hugo Chavez abused the privilege that he had speaking
at the United Nations," Pelosi said. "In doing so, in
the manner which he characterized the president, he
demeaned himself and demeaned Venezuela."

Bush administration officials dismissed the Chavez
tirade.

"We're not going to address that sort of comic-strip
approach to international affairs," John Bolton, the
U.S. ambassador to the U.N., said shortly after Chavez
spoke Wednesday.

Chavez's tirades against Bush have become common. In
May, he accused Bush of committing genocide and said
the U.S. president should be imprisoned by an
international criminal court.

Chavez also alleged during the U.N. speech that the
United States is planning, financing and setting in
motion a coup to overthrow him. The U.S. has denied
such accusations in the past.

As he was exiting the U.N. building in New York,
Chavez told reporters that Bush is not a legitimate
president because he "stole the elections."

"He is, therefore, a dictator," Chavez said.(Watch
Chavez's bellicose comments -- :57)

During a stop in Harlem on Thursday, Chavez said he
has no quarrel with the American people.

"We are friends of yours, and you are our friends," he
said.

Underscoring his point, he announced he is expanding
his heating-oil program to help impoverished Americans
from 40 million gallons last year to 100 million
gallons this year, and from 180,000 families to
459,000 families.

But in the heart of Rangel's congressional district,
he blasted away at Bush for a second day.

"He walks like this cowboy John Wayne," said Chavez.
"He doesn't have the slightest idea of politics. He
got where he is because he is the son of his father.
He was an alcoholic, an ex-alcoholic. He's a sick man,
full of complexes, but very dangerous now because he
has a lot of power."

Chavez, clad in a fire-engine-red shirt, called Bush a
"menace" and a "threat against life on the planet."

In the United States, rich people are getting richer,
and poor people are getting poorer, he said. "That's
not a democracy; that's a tyranny."

After his address, a Chavez spokesman said the Secret
Service and New York Police Department had barred the
Venezuelan president from granting media interviews
and cut his delegation's satellite feed -- claims the
New York police and State Department denied.

NYPD Assistant Chief Michael Collins called the
allegations "absolutely false" and said the Venezuelan
delegation refused to comply with requirements on
where to place their satellite dish.

"What they were doing was dangerous and illegal," he
said. "We made every accommodation not to interfere
with what was going on."

State Department spokesman Gonzo Gallegos, in New York
with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, said: "As a
matter of policy, there are no restrictions on
President Chavez or anyone else wanting to speak their
mind in the United States."

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<DT><SPAN class=3D385353911-22092006><FONT face=3DArial>what does =
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<DT><SPAN class=3D385353911-22092006><FONT face=3DArial>-hank says =
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Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez decides<BR>to tell the truth about =
"Dubya" at=20
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the<BR>Charles Rangel launch a scathing attack<BR>against him for doing=20
such!<BR><BR>It's moments like these that expose the Democrats =
for<BR>the phony=20
opposition party they truly are. They fully<BR>support President Bush's =
plans=20
for world domination.<BR>They just don't like the kind of tactics that=20
"Dubya"<BR>has used to achieve this goal.<BR><BR>Democrats attack Chavez =
because=20
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criticism<BR>of Bush exposes their complicity in his crimes. If=20
a<BR>Bolivarian-type revolution ever hits our shores,<BR>expect the =
Democrats to=20
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September 21, 2006<BR><BR>WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Two of President Bush's=20
staunchest<BR>domestic critics leapt to his defense Thursday, a =
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of his fiercest foreign foes called him "the<BR>devil" in a scorching =
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come into<BR>my congressional district and you don't condemn =
my<BR>president,"=20
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Chavez.<BR><BR>House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-California, =
was<BR>blunt in=20
her criticism of the Venezuelan leader. "He<BR>is an everyday thug," she =
said.=20
(Watch Rangel rip<BR>Chavez -- 1:28 )<BR><BR>Chavez kept up his =
criticism of=20
Bush during a visit to<BR>Harlem on Thursday, calling the U.S. president =
"a=20
sick<BR>man" who is unqualified for the job. Chavez also said<BR>he is =
expanding=20
his heating-oil program to help<BR>low-income Americans.<BR><BR>During =
his=20
speech before the U.N. General Assembly on<BR>Wednesday, Chavez launched =
into a=20
caustic verbal<BR>attack of Bush that shocked diplomats and=20
observers<BR>accustomed to the staid verbiage of =
international<BR>diplomacy.=20
(Full story)<BR><BR>"The devil came here yesterday," Chavez =
said,<BR>referring=20
to Bush, who addressed the world body during<BR>its annual meeting =
Tuesday. "And=20
it smells of sulfur<BR>still today."<BR><BR>Chavez accused Bush of =
having spoken=20
"as if he owned<BR>the world" when the U.S. president addressed the=20
world<BR>body on Tuesday. (Watch Chavez headline a devil of a<BR>week at =
the=20
U.N. -- 2:11)<BR><BR>"As the spokesman of imperialism, he came to share=20
his<BR>nostrums to try to preserve the current pattern of<BR>domination, =

exploitation and pillage of the peoples of the world. An Alfred =
Hitchcock=20
movie could use it as a scenario. I would even propose a title: 'The=20
Devil's Recipe.' " Bush's domestic foes fumed =
Thursday. "If=20
there's any criticism of President Bush, it should be restricted to=20
Americans, whether they voted for him or not," Rangel said at a =
Washington=20
news conference. "I just want to make it abundantly clear to=20
Hugo Chavez or any other president: Don't come to the United =
States and=20
think, because we have problems with our president, that any =
foreigner can=20
come to our country and not think that Americans do not =
feel offended when=20
you offend our chief of state," Rangel said. "Hugo Chavez =
abused the=20
privilege that he had speaking at the United Nations," Pelosi said. =
"In doing=20
so, in the manner which he characterized the president, =
he demeaned=20
himself and demeaned Venezuela." Bush administration officials =
dismissed=20
the Chavez tirade. "We're not going to address that sort of=20
comic-strip approach to international affairs," John Bolton, =
the U.S.=20
ambassador to the U.N., said shortly after Chavez spoke=20
Wednesday. Chavez's tirades against Bush have become common. =
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he accused Bush of committing genocide and said the U.S. president =
should be=20
imprisoned by an international criminal court. Chavez also =
alleged=20
during the U.N. speech that the United States is planning, financing =
and=20
setting in motion a coup to overthrow him. The U.S. has =
denied such=20
accusations in the past. As he was exiting the U.N. building in =
New=20
York, Chavez told reporters that Bush is not a =
legitimate president=20
because he "stole the elections." "He is, therefore, a dictator," =
Chavez=20
said.(Watch Chavez's bellicose comments -- :57) During a stop =
in=20
Harlem on Thursday, Chavez said he has no quarrel with the American=20
people. "We are friends of yours, and you are our friends,"=20
he said. Underscoring his point, he announced he is =
expanding his=20
heating-oil program to help impoverished Americans from 40 million =
gallons=20
last year to 100 million gallons this year, and from 180,000 families =

to 459,000 families. But in the heart of Rangel's =
congressional=20
district, he blasted away at Bush for a second day. "He walks =
like=20
this cowboy John Wayne," said Chavez. "He doesn't have the slightest =
idea of=20
politics. He got where he is because he is the son of his =
father. He was=20
an alcoholic, an ex-alcoholic. He's a sick man, full of complexes, =
but very=20
dangerous now because he has a lot of power." Chavez, clad in =
a=20
fire-engine-red shirt, called Bush a "menace" and a "threat =
against life=20
on the planet." In the United States, rich people are getting=20
richer, and poor people are getting poorer, he said. "That's not a =

democracy; that's a tyranny."<BR><BR>After his address, a Chavez =
spokesman said=20
the Secret<BR>Service and New York Police Department had barred=20
the<BR>Venezuelan president from granting media interviews<BR>and cut =
his=20
delegation's satellite feed -- claims the<BR>New York police and State=20
Department denied.<BR><BR>NYPD Assistant Chief Michael Collins called=20
the<BR>allegations "absolutely false" and said the =
Venezuelan<BR>delegation=20
refused to comply with requirements on<BR>where to place their satellite =

dish. "What they were doing was dangerous and illegal," =
he said. "We=20
made every accommodation not to interfere with what was going=20
on." State Department spokesman Gonzo Gallegos, in New =
York with=20
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, said: "As a matter of policy, =
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their mind in the United=20
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