[Peace-discussion] Must read.

[John Walsh]

Wow, that's news!  And a fresh imaginative approach also.  With this
wealth of new approaches, it is quite amazing that the peace movement
(oh, excuse me, the peace and justice movement) has simply gone down
the tubes.  But we have our purity and the Iraqis are only losing
their lives for it.
Of course the Dems have been responsible for the killing of 1 million
Iraqis in this war, for sanctions that killed 500,000 under Bill,
Hillary and Madeleine, have helped in the slow genocide of the
Palestinians, gave us the war on Vietnam (2-3 million dead there) etc.
Now I am against the death penalty - period.  But who is responsible
for more killings, Ron Paul at whom some like to rage or the Dems at
whom they do not have similar rage?  (And I am not referring to A.G.
here but a declining number in our midst.)
john walsh (MA delegate)
p.s. If Ron Paul had his way and drug penalties were largely abolished
(as we Greens also would like), there would be far fewer prisoners in
Texas and elsewhere.  And of course to blame him for everything that
happens in TX is a weak debating point or just plain silly.
And think about it.  If we make alliances with Paul and Libertarians
on the many things on with which we agree, we might convert many of
those Texans into our allies.  In fact such an alliance might just be
the key to the Presidency and Congress for us.  And we might save many
Iraqis and Iranians in the process.  But we would not have our purity,
so let us not even think about it.
pps.  Anesthesiologists have no business participating in executions.


On 12/15/07, a.gronowicz@att.net <a.gronowicz@att.net> wrote:
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> Texas oversees more prisoners per capita than any other state, a state where
> since 1976, 40% of all United States' executions have taken place, even
> though Texas has but 7% of U.S. population. This gruesome statistic confirms
> Eduardo Galeano's assessment that, "The more freedom is extended to
> business, the more prisons have to be built for those who suffer from that
> business." Texas also met Dostoevsky's standard that "Y ou can judge a
> society by how it treats its prisoners." Texan executions like those in
> Virginia are conducted without trained anesthesiologists.[1]
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> [1] Lancet, April 2005.
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> By saying that David's objections to Ron Paul's politics are standard or
> predictable, does not vitiate the accuracy or relevance of those objections.
> If fascism cloaked in libertarian verbiage appeals to folks, then you all
> can get on the Ron Paul bandwagon. But a confused, meandering critique of
> the ISO smacks of red baiting, and for what?  To legitamize Ron Paul's
> reactionary agenda?
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