So John, what's your plan...Re: [Peace-discussion] Must read.
Joni LeViness
myths16@cox.net
Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:34:53 -0600
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Add to this the 8th Blunder or root to passive violence which does channel
it's way towards violence.
8] Rights without Responsibilities.
Peace,
joni
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Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:39 PM
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Subject: Re: So John, what's your plan...Re: [Peace-discussion] Must read.
Correct. Tony
-------------- Original message from David Strand <mncivil@yahoo.com>:
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> Seven Deadly Social Sins
>
> Gandhi
>
> 1] politics without principle
>
> 2] wealth without work
>
> 3] commerce without morality
>
> 4] pleasure without conscience
>
> 5] education without character
>
> 6] science without humanity
>
> 7] worship without sacrifice
>
> John, I am willing to make alliances to end the war
> but as far as your statements about "purity" I think
> what you are calling "purity" is what many of us we
> call "principles" and I don't believe in doing
> politics without principles.
>
> Can we still form strategic alliances to achieve
> common goals such as ending the war?
>
> Abso lutely.
>
> Do I think liberterians are gulity of several of
> Ghandi's so called Deadly Social Sins?
>
> Yes!
>
> But I'm still willing to work with them towards common
> ends.
>
> So, what is your proposal and how would it work?
>
> No one has said we can't do such alliances for
> strategic purposes we are simply saying why we don't
> support Ron Paul. Now a strategy to end the war
> together with Ron Paul supporters, that is obviously
> open to discussion, what does it look like?
>
> After all, even the nonviolent theologian and theorist
> Bonhoffer found that sometimes actions he would have
> thought unthinkable were right under given
> circumstances.
>
> David Strand
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> ____
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> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Original message from David Strand <mncivil@yahoo.com>: =
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<BR><BR><BR>> Seven Deadly Social Sins <BR>> <BR>> Gandhi =
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<BR>> 1] politics without principle <BR>> <BR>> 2] wealth =
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work <BR>> <BR>> 3] commerce without morality <BR>> <BR>> =
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pleasure without conscience <BR>> <BR>> 5] education without =
character=20
<BR>> <BR>> 6] science without humanity <BR>> <BR>> 7] =
worship=20
without sacrifice <BR>> <BR>> John, I am willing to make =
alliances to=20
end the war <BR>> but as far as your statements about "purity" I =
think=20
<BR>> what you are calling "purity" is what many of us we <BR>> =
call=20
"principles" and I don't believe in doing <BR>> politics without=20
principles. <BR>> <BR>> Can we still form strategic alliances to =
achieve=20
<BR>> common goals such as ending the war? <BR>> <BR>> Abso =
lutely.=20
<BR>> <BR>> Do I think liberterians are gulity of several of =
<BR>>=20
Ghandi's so called Deadly Social Sins? <BR>> <BR>> Yes! <BR>> =
<BR>> But I'm still willing to work with them towards common =
<BR>> ends.=20
<BR>> <BR>> So, what is your proposal and how would it work? =
<BR>>=20
<BR>> No one has said we can't do such alliances for <BR>> =
strategic=20
purposes we are simply saying why we don't <BR>> support Ron Paul. =
Now a=20
strategy to end the war <BR>> together with Ron Paul supporters, =
that is=20
obviously <BR>> open to discussion, what does it look like? =
<BR>>=20
<BR>> After all, even the nonviolent theologian and theorist =
<BR>>=20
Bonhoffer found that sometimes actions he would have <BR>> thought=20
unthinkable were right under given <BR>> circumstances. <BR>> =
<BR>>=20
David Strand <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>=20
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_________________________________________________________________________=
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<BR>> ____ <BR>& gt; Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home =
page.=20
<BR>> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs=20
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