[Peace-discussion] On the Nat'l. Expedited sponsorship of WCW event
Henry D.
henryduke2004@yahoo.com
Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:05:32 -0800 (PST)
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I would like to be back on GPAX, but this time I would be representing California.
I am an active member of the Green Party of Orange County, affiliated with the GP of California.
I favor an expedited and liberal endorsement policy at all levels of a wannabe-dynamic and flexible organization
Furthermore, I support Jim loaning our name to what he trusts is a good peace event/entity.
I trust him and the other GPAX activists loaning our name, not money, to non-candidates as long as we are notified so that were contraversy to arise, we could investigate and do what is necessary to correct an error.
Peace and Love,
Hank
Jim Dorenkott <jimdorenkott3@yahoo.com> wrote:
Now that the emergency demos are over. (SF had 4 today and one last night) The biggest organizer www.americasaysno.org has 2 dem party endorsers PDA and DFA and no green.
I am not quite clear about what you are suggesting has to be done with the list. Who do you query?
I will help make this happen.
Jim
Joni LeViness <myths16@cox.net> wrote:
Hey Jim,
we need to get Byron vetted by CA you're new to me, but i've been here about a year and a half i think.
Henry,
wcw is World Can't Wait, as in 'the world can't wait for 2008", there are chapters across the u.s. Tulsa had one, but i think most of it's members have moved onto 911 Truth.
As for how many in every state, each adress on gpax would need to be queried for an accurate reading. What we've done in the fall of 06 is ask who's represented, and who else would like to join.
As of right now, gpax has onlist 86 and active, maybe 12?
I've little time to do all but if two others would step up to do 30 we could fire off a batch and perhaps have a more comprehensive list?
Peace,
joni
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From: peace-discussion-admin@lists.gp-us.org [mailto:peace-discussion-admin@lists.gp-us.org] On Behalf Of Jim Dorenkott
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:45 PM
To: peace-discussion@lists.gp-us.org
Subject: Re: [Peace-discussion] On the Nat'l. Expedited sponsorship of WCW event
Hi,
I started writing this "I don't think GPAX speaks for the party anymore than PDA speaks for the Democratic Party. I do think we should endorse representing organized peace oriented Greens and we should be doing a lot of it. Is not the Green Party the anti-war party? The Dems will quickly be showing they aren't."
Then I looked up the info online http://www.gp.org/committees/peace/about.shtml GPAX appears to be an official committee of the GP and subject to Article 3 of the by-laws http://www.gp.org/documents/bylaws.shtml
If there is a decisionmaking structure in GPAX they could make the decisions. Absent that maybe a 2 day deadline. Post the request; people have 2 days to respond yeah or nay and debate. Try for consensus and then some threshold vote to be timely.
What is the current membership of GPAX? How big is it? The description says 3 per state; is that occurring? Is there a list of the 3 official reps from each state or particularly from Ca my state? What is the decisionmaking process? Are there additional by-laws to the ones I cited?
Thanks,
Jim
"Henry D." <henryduke2004@yahoo.com> wrote:
what is wcw?
There should be a broad spectrum of people empowered to endorse. (say 10 - 200
Any one of those folks could empower the use of our name, and this should be notified on email to a larger discuss list.
Should it provoke controversy, then it will. But those discussions help clarify and actually help facilitate action.
As I have stated many times, I will work in coalition with everyone except organized bigots like the minutemen, etc.
Were someone to associate GPAX or the national green party with them, I would want a retraction, apology, and that person would no longer be able to give our endorsement.
Thanks Joni in Okie,
hank back on the left coast
Joni LeViness <myths16@cox.net> wrote:
This may draw some similar fire.
My guess is, if we as gpax have a firm commitment towards action and
expedited sponsorship, do we support that in our SC?
What if there's an org. we have real issues with?
How far does autonomy go?
Is the SC to be held to a different standard than we as an action committee would like, being
that they're speaking for the Nat'l Party?
Nothings ever black and white, unfortunately, but i think as gpax we would do well to discuss this, for
those of us that are able...
I'm thinking with good people and good goals and good kv's as a checkpoint we/none of us should be holding others
back. My thought is, when compelled to flow, we should flow, when there's an ebb we need to respect that as well.
These are my thoughts. What are Yours?
Peace,
joni
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<div>I would like to be back on GPAX, but this time I would be representing California.</div> <div> </div> <div>I am an active member of the Green Party of Orange County, affiliated with the GP of California.<BR></div> <div>I favor an expedited and liberal endorsement policy at all levels of a wannabe-dynamic and flexible organization</div> <div> </div> <div>Furthermore, I support Jim loaning our name to what he trusts is a good peace event/entity.</div> <div> </div> <div>I trust him and the other GPAX activists loaning our name, not money, to non-candidates as long as we are notified so that were contraversy to arise, we could investigate and do what is necessary to correct an error.</div> <div> </div> <div>Peace and Love,</div> <div> </div> <div>Hank<BR><B><I>Jim Dorenkott <jimdorenkott3@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">
<DIV>Now that the emergency demos are over. (SF had 4 today and one last night) The biggest organizer <A href="http://www.americasaysno.org/">www.americasaysno.org</A> has 2 dem party endorsers PDA and DFA and no green.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am not quite clear about what you are suggesting has to be done with the list. Who do you query?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I will help make this happen.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jim<BR><BR><B><I>Joni LeViness <myths16@cox.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.5730.11" name=GENERATOR> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=484283402-04012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hey Jim,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=484283402-04012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>we need to get Byron vetted by CA you're new to me, but i've been here about a year and a half i
think.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=484283402-04012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Henry, </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=484283402-04012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>wcw is World Can't Wait, as in 'the world can't wait for 2008", there are chapters across the u.s. Tulsa had one, but i think most of it's members have moved onto 911 Truth.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=484283402-04012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>As for how many in every state, each adress on gpax would need to be queried for an accurate reading. What we've done in the fall of 06 is ask who's represented, and who else would like to join.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=484283402-04012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>As of right now, gpax has onlist 86 and active, maybe 12?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=484283402-04012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I've little time to do all but if two others would step up to do 30 we could fire off a batch and perhaps have a more comprehensive list?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=484283402-04012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Peace,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=484283402-04012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>joni</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left> <HR tabIndex=-1> <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> peace-discussion-admin@lists.gp-us.org [mailto:peace-discussion-admin@lists.gp-us.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jim Dorenkott<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:45 PM<BR><B>To:</B> peace-discussion@lists.gp-us.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discussion] On the Nat'l. Expedited sponsorship of WCW event<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Hi,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I started writing
this "I don't think GPAX speaks for the party anymore than PDA speaks for the Democratic Party. I do think we should endorse representing organized peace oriented Greens and we should be doing a lot of it. Is not the Green Party the anti-war party? The Dems will quickly be showing they aren't."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Then I looked up the info online <A href="http://www.gp.org/committees/peace/about.shtml">http://www.gp.org/committees/peace/about.shtml</A> GPAX appears to be an official committee of the GP and subject to Article 3 of the by-laws <A href="http://www.gp.org/documents/bylaws.shtml">http://www.gp.org/documents/bylaws.shtml</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If there is a decisionmaking structure in GPAX they could make the decisions. Absent that maybe a 2 day deadline. Post the request; people have 2 days to respond yeah or nay and debate. Try for consensus and then some threshold vote to be
timely.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What is the current membership of GPAX? How big is it? The description says 3 per state; is that occurring? Is there a list of the 3 official reps from each state or particularly from Ca my state? What is the decisionmaking process? Are there additional by-laws to the ones I cited? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks,</DIV> <DIV>Jim</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>"Henry D." <henryduke2004@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <DIV>what is wcw?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There should be a broad spectrum of people empowered to endorse. (say 10 - 200</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Any one of those folks could empower the use of our name, and this should be notified on email to a larger discuss list.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Should it provoke controversy, then it
will. But those discussions help clarify and actually help facilitate action.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As I have stated many times, I will work in coalition with everyone except organized bigots like the minutemen, etc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Were someone to associate GPAX or the national green party with them, I would want a retraction, apology, and that person would no longer be able to give our endorsement.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks Joni in Okie,</DIV> <DIV>hank back on the left coast</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Joni LeViness <myths16@cox.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.5730.11" name=GENERATOR> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=156242021-01012007>This may draw some similar fire.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=156242021-01012007>My guess is, if we as gpax have a firm commitment towards action and </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=156242021-01012007>expedited sponsorship, do we support that in our SC?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=156242021-01012007>What if there's an org. we have real issues with?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=156242021-01012007>How far does autonomy go?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=156242021-01012007>Is the SC to be held to a different standard than we as an action committee would like, being</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=156242021-01012007>that they're speaking for the Nat'l Party?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=156242021-01012007>Nothings ever black and white, unfortunately, but i think as gpax we would do well to discuss this, for</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=156242021-01012007>those of us that are able...</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=156242021-01012007>I'm thinking with good people and good goals and good kv's as a checkpoint we/none of us should be holding others</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=156242021-01012007>back. My thought is, when compelled to flow, we should flow, when there's an ebb we need to respect that as well.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=156242021-01012007>These are my thoughts. What are Yours?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=156242021-01012007>Peace,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=156242021-01012007>joni</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>__________________________________________________<BR>Do You Yahoo!?<BR>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around <BR>http://mail.yahoo.com
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