[Peace-discussion] On the Nat'l. Expedited sponsorship of WCW event
Joni LeViness
myths16@cox.net
Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:23:15 -0600
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Henry, I would be happy to have you back on our list, but first you need to
be vetted by CA, can you have GPCA send in that you're vetted?
Thanks!
Peace,
joni
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From: peace-discussion-admin@lists.gp-us.org
[mailto:peace-discussion-admin@lists.gp-us.org] On Behalf Of Henry D.
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:06 AM
To: Jim Dorenkott; peace-discussion@lists.gp-us.org
Subject: RE: [Peace-discussion] On the Nat'l. Expedited sponsorship of WCW
event
I would like to be back on GPAX, but this time I would be representing
California.
I am an active member of the Green Party of Orange County, affiliated with
the GP of California.
I favor an expedited and liberal endorsement policy at all levels of a
wannabe-dynamic and flexible organization
Furthermore, I support Jim loaning our name to what he trusts is a good
peace event/entity.
I trust him and the other GPAX activists loaning our name, not money, to
non-candidates as long as we are notified so that were contraversy to arise,
we could investigate and do what is necessary to correct an error.
Peace and Love,
Hank
Jim Dorenkott <jimdorenkott3@yahoo.com> wrote:
Now that the emergency demos are over. (SF had 4 today and one last night)
The biggest organizer www.americasaysno.org <http://www.americasaysno.org/>
has 2 dem party endorsers PDA and DFA and no green.
I am not quite clear about what you are suggesting has to be done with the
list. Who do you query?
I will help make this happen.
Jim
Joni LeViness <myths16@cox.net> wrote:
Hey Jim,
we need to get Byron vetted by CA you're new to me, but i've been here about
a year and a half i think.
Henry,
wcw is World Can't Wait, as in 'the world can't wait for 2008", there are
chapters across the u.s. Tulsa had one, but i think most of it's members
have moved onto 911 Truth.
As for how many in every state, each adress on gpax would need to be queried
for an accurate reading. What we've done in the fall of 06 is ask who's
represented, and who else would like to join.
As of right now, gpax has onlist 86 and active, maybe 12?
I've little time to do all but if two others would step up to do 30 we could
fire off a batch and perhaps have a more comprehensive list?
Peace,
joni
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From: peace-discussion-admin@lists.gp-us.org
[mailto:peace-discussion-admin@lists.gp-us.org] On Behalf Of Jim Dorenkott
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:45 PM
To: peace-discussion@lists.gp-us.org
Subject: Re: [Peace-discussion] On the Nat'l. Expedited sponsorship of WCW
event
Hi,
I started writing this "I don't think GPAX speaks for the party anymore than
PDA speaks for the Democratic Party. I do think we should endorse
representing organized peace oriented Greens and we should be doing a lot of
it. Is not the Green Party the anti-war party? The Dems will quickly be
showing they aren't."
Then I looked up the info online
http://www.gp.org/committees/peace/about.shtml GPAX appears to be an
official committee of the GP and subject to Article 3 of the by-laws
http://www.gp.org/documents/bylaws.shtml
If there is a decisionmaking structure in GPAX they could make the
decisions. Absent that maybe a 2 day deadline. Post the request; people have
2 days to respond yeah or nay and debate. Try for consensus and then some
threshold vote to be timely.
What is the current membership of GPAX? How big is it? The description says
3 per state; is that occurring? Is there a list of the 3 official reps from
each state or particularly from Ca my state? What is the decisionmaking
process? Are there additional by-laws to the ones I cited?
Thanks,
Jim
"Henry D." <henryduke2004@yahoo.com> wrote:
what is wcw?
There should be a broad spectrum of people empowered to endorse. (say 10 -
200
Any one of those folks could empower the use of our name, and this should be
notified on email to a larger discuss list.
Should it provoke controversy, then it will. But those discussions help
clarify and actually help facilitate action.
As I have stated many times, I will work in coalition with everyone except
organized bigots like the minutemen, etc.
Were someone to associate GPAX or the national green party with them, I
would want a retraction, apology, and that person would no longer be able to
give our endorsement.
Thanks Joni in Okie,
hank back on the left coast
Joni LeViness <myths16@cox.net> wrote:
This may draw some similar fire.
My guess is, if we as gpax have a firm commitment towards action and
expedited sponsorship, do we support that in our SC?
What if there's an org. we have real issues with?
How far does autonomy go?
Is the SC to be held to a different standard than we as an action committee
would like, being
that they're speaking for the Nat'l Party?
Nothings ever black and white, unfortunately, but i think as gpax we would
do well to discuss this, for
those of us that are able...
I'm thinking with good people and good goals and good kv's as a checkpoint
we/none of us should be holding others
back. My thought is, when compelled to flow, we should flow, when there's an
ebb we need to respect that as well.
These are my thoughts. What are Yours?
Peace,
joni
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D843582118-12012007><FONT =
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Henry, I would be happy to have you back on our =
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first you need to be vetted by CA, can you have GPCA send in that you're =
vetted?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D843582118-12012007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Thanks!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D843582118-12012007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Peace,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D843582118-12012007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>joni</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> =
peace-discussion-admin@lists.gp-us.org=20
[mailto:peace-discussion-admin@lists.gp-us.org] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Henry=20
D.<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 12, 2007 11:06 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Jim=20
Dorenkott; peace-discussion@lists.gp-us.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20
[Peace-discussion] On the Nat'l. Expedited sponsorship of WCW=20
event<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>I would like to be back on GPAX, but this time I would be =
representing=20
California.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I am an active member of the Green Party of Orange County, =
affiliated with=20
the GP of California.<BR></DIV>
<DIV>I favor an expedited and liberal endorsement policy at all levels =
of a=20
wannabe-dynamic and flexible organization</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Furthermore, I support Jim loaning our name to what he trusts is a =
good=20
peace event/entity.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I trust him and the other GPAX activists loaning our name, not =
money, to=20
non-candidates as long as we are notified so that were contraversy to =
arise, we=20
could investigate and do what is necessary to correct an error.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Peace and Love,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hank<BR><B><I>Jim Dorenkott <jimdorenkott3@yahoo.com></I></B> =
wrote:</DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px =
solid">
<DIV>Now that the emergency demos are over. (SF had 4 today and one =
last=20
night) The biggest organizer <A=20
href=3D"http://www.americasaysno.org/">www.americasaysno.org</A> has 2 =
dem party=20
endorsers PDA and DFA and no green.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I am not quite clear about what you are suggesting has to be done =
with=20
the list. Who do you query?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I will help make this happen.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Jim<BR><BR><B><I>Joni LeViness <myths16@cox.net></I></B>=20
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D484283402-04012007><FONT =
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hey Jim,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D484283402-04012007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>we need to get Byron vetted by CA you're =
new to me, but=20
i've been here about a year and a half i think.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D484283402-04012007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Henry, </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D484283402-04012007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>wcw is World Can't Wait, as in 'the world =
can't wait=20
for 2008", there are chapters across the u.s. Tulsa had one, but i =
think=20
most of it's members have moved onto 911 Truth.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D484283402-04012007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>As for how many in every state, each adress =
on gpax=20
would need to be queried for an accurate reading. What we've done in =
the=20
fall of 06 is ask who's represented, and who else would like to=20
join.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D484283402-04012007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>As of right now, gpax has =
onlist 86 =20
and active, maybe 12?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D484283402-04012007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I've little time to do all but if two =
others would step=20
up to do 30 we could fire off a batch and perhaps have a more =
comprehensive=20
list?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D484283402-04012007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Peace,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D484283402-04012007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>joni</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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align=3Dleft>
<HR tabIndex=3D-1>
<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> =
peace-discussion-admin@lists.gp-us.org=20
[mailto:peace-discussion-admin@lists.gp-us.org] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Jim=20
Dorenkott<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:45 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
peace-discussion@lists.gp-us.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[Peace-discussion]=20
On the Nat'l. Expedited sponsorship of WCW =
event<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Hi,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I started writing this "I don't think GPAX speaks for the party =
anymore=20
than PDA speaks for the Democratic Party. I do think we should =
endorse=20
representing organized peace oriented Greens and we should be doing =
a lot of=20
it. Is not the Green Party the anti-war party? The Dems will quickly =
be=20
showing they aren't."</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Then I looked up the info online <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.gp.org/committees/peace/about.shtml">http://www.gp.org=
/committees/peace/about.shtml</A> &nbs=
p;=20
GPAX appears to be an official committee of the GP and subject to =
Article 3=20
of the by-laws <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.gp.org/documents/bylaws.shtml">http://www.gp.org/docum=
ents/bylaws.shtml</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If there is a decisionmaking structure in GPAX they could make =
the=20
decisions. Absent that maybe a 2 day deadline. Post the request; =
people have=20
2 days to respond yeah or nay and debate. Try for consensus and then =
some=20
threshold vote to be timely.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What is the current membership of GPAX? How big is it? The =
description=20
says 3 per state; is that occurring? Is there a list of the 3 =
official reps=20
from each state or particularly from Ca my state? What is the=20
decisionmaking process? Are there additional by-laws to the ones I =
cited?=20
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Jim</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>"Henry D." =
<henryduke2004@yahoo.com></I></B>=20
wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dreplbq=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff =
2px solid">
<DIV>what is wcw?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There should be a broad spectrum of people empowered to =
endorse. (say=20
10 - 200</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Any one of those folks could empower the use of our name, and =
this=20
should be notified on email to a larger discuss list.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Should it provoke controversy, then it will. But those =
discussions=20
help clarify and actually help facilitate action.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As I have stated many times, I will work in coalition with =
everyone=20
except organized bigots like the minutemen, etc.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Were someone to associate GPAX or the national green party =
with them,=20
I would want a retraction, apology, and that person would no =
longer be=20
able to give our endorsement.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks Joni in Okie,</DIV>
<DIV>hank back on the left coast</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Joni LeViness <myths16@cox.net></I></B>=20
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D156242021-01012007>This may=20
draw some similar fire.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D156242021-01012007>My guess is,=20
if we as gpax have a firm commitment towards action and=20
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D156242021-01012007>expedited=20
sponsorship, do we support that in our SC?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D156242021-01012007>What if=20
there's an org. we have real issues with?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D156242021-01012007>How far does=20
autonomy go?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D156242021-01012007>Is the SC to=20
be held to a different standard than we as an action committee=20
would like, being</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D156242021-01012007>that they're=20
speaking for the Nat'l Party?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D156242021-01012007>Nothings=20
ever black and white, unfortunately, but i think as gpax we =
would do=20
well to discuss this, for</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D156242021-01012007>those of us=20
that are able...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D156242021-01012007>I'm thinking=20
with good people and good goals and good kv's as a checkpoint =
we/none of=20
us should be holding others</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D156242021-01012007>back. My=20
thought is, when compelled to flow, we should flow, when there's =
an ebb=20
we need to respect that as well.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D156242021-01012007>These are my=20
thoughts. What are Yours?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D156242021-01012007>Peace,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
=
class=3D156242021-01012007>joni</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLO=
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