[Peace-discussion] http://eggsistense.com/ ~Re: Hattiesburg Noon Southern Miss "Peace and Truth" Promotion
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Hi Joni and GPAX, as to your question, Are you both part of gpax now?, Yes as decided upon by the March Steering Executive Council of the Green Party of Mississippi.
Lynn McLean, Observer Member GPAX (DivCom: voting Member)
William McLean, Voting Member GPAX (DivCom: obsever Member)
http://unitedforpeace.org/calendar.php?calid=23004
http://greenpartyms.org/
(need to be place on GPUS-PAX listserv also PLEASE!, by whoever , , , ? ? ?)
We are coming to Chi-Town via Amtrak (already have 7-9 to7-14 reservations & CTA 5 Day passes~transit) for the National GP Gathering this Summer.
the current cartoon on http://eggsistense.com is about TASER's, which we address Our Magee, MS (Pop 4,200) City Meeting (Alderman/Coucil) last January (BELOW). We also do a "Adopt-a-Highway" quarterly: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/cpeacesigns/HwyCleanUpSimpsonCoGP.jpg
(We also addressed it to Law Enforcement with the 501 (C) Social Service Agency that we had in St Petersburg:
http://www.stpetersburgtimes.com/2004/10/24/Neighborhoodtimes/Outreach_program_is_a.shtml
peace Lovin' You
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below copy of Letter addressing TAZER's and other issues
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January 15, 2008
TO: Magee City Board of Aldermen
FROM: William and Lynn McLean
305 5th Avenue N.E.
Magee, MS 39111
Phone # 601-867-3879
SUBJECT: Walking Nature Trail, TASER USE POLICY!, more Green Space and Parks to be purchased by Magee City and for more Sidewalks.
Dear Aldermen,
We would like to address 4 issues.
Nature/Walking Trail along the Creek on Our Property: We would like this to move forward as we brought this up 2007. We contact the MS Governor’s "Let’s go walking Mississippi" program and was refered to Wade Overstreet of Blue Cross/Blue Shield which gave 3 million dollars to MS State for "Preventive Health Projects". (2006) He sounded positive about helping with the walking trail for the 2 sets of stairs, painting crosswalk and any improvement to the Parking area by the H.S. running track. His phone number is (601) 664-4703. He also said a coworker, Kevin Spera, would be able to come down here to look at the Project/Nature/Walking Trial and meet with us and someone from the city. (the only contact for him that we have is email; "Kevin Spera" KSpera@bcbsms.com ) People already use the H.S. running trfor morning and evening walking and exercise and we feel that this would be an asset to those who enjoy their walking and for their health. We would want for our safety, and
safety of our personal belongings (farm equipment, mowers, etc), and as the right of being the owners of the property for and agreement to restrict the walking trail a certain distance from the creek (say 35 ft. from center or 25 ft from the top edge) and that the agreement would have to be renewed every 5 years. Also, we would want the hours restricted to ½ hr. before sunrise to ½ hr. after sunset. We hope that the City attorney will help us with drawing up the agreement, using the one that we gave you in 2007 as a starting draft. (no motorized vehicles, but bicycles O.K.)
The use of TASERS: Lynn and I set up a 501(c)(3) Social Service Agency in St Petersburg, FL near 5 Day Labors. Only less than half of the people that showed up often got work for the Day. We rented a storefront and had computers that clients could use, received mail for Job applications, medical appointments and so that the client could receive mail from family (Support Net). We had a clothing room where we distributed clothes that the community donated, a "Book Exchange", took phone messages for clients, gave showers and ALWAYS had coffee and pastries as well as donated bread, a weekly AA meeting and a weekly Bible Study. We always stress that our clients were more important than the volunteers were and the "Outreach" was theirs. We had no paid staff, but had a 9 to 11 member Board of Directors with monthly meetings, which I was the Board President for 2 years. We had concerns for the abuse of Tasers and had the County Sheriff’s Community relations officer come to hear
our concerns of the misuse of Tasers, especially on the disabled, with physical or mental health issues. Please see the last 2 pages of this package for more information. We are concerned for the Magee Police getting Tasers now. We feel that they need to be only used with extreme discretion and with strict guidelines for their use. The Company, "TASER International, Inc" is out to make profits and their information on their products can be misleading, claiming they are "Harmless". They say they cause no permanent harm, but the "fuller truth" is that is that they can and have cause harm, both mentally and physically including death (over 160 cases!) and long term mental problems of anxiety and PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder). This is especially true when they are abused or used as "Punishment" by a police officer. Punishment is for the Courts to decide not a policeman. We were given assurance by Chief Davidson that there was much Thought and Research put into the
Guidelines and Policy for the use of the use of a TASER. We greatly appreciate this, and hope that is successful in the prevention of the misuse of the TASER and he said the issues for not using them on CITIZENS already handcuffed, children, pregnant women and with discretion if used on CITIZENS with mental health issues. Please see the articles that we included are read. They include some "horror stories". Perhaps, there should be a Citizens Review Board to review if they are used within the policy and guidelines!
We hope that as Magee grows, so does the City own "Green Spaces" as well as having more parks: A priority should be placed on this and NOT just "put to the back burner".
We need more sidewalks in Magee: As our 4th issue, this should be a priority and true progress should be made in this area!
Thank you for your thoughtful consideration of these 4 issues that we bring up. Our Alderman, Mr. Brown has assured us that we are always Welcomed at the Board of Aldermen’s meetings for Citizen Input and comments and to keep us informed and to be a positive part of Our Community of Magee. We feel Magee is one of the most beautiful and best cities/Communities in Mississippi and America.
Sincerely, William and Lynn McLean
305 5th Avenue NE, Magee, MS
Joni LeViness <myths16@cox.net> wrote:
Wonderful MoP!
Beautiful photo of you two as well!
Are you both part of gpax now?
I was the secretary at one point but last August i was left trying to do way too much to keep active and
even somewhat useful on this list, this wonderful group.
Peace,
joni
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From: peace-discussion-admin@lists.gp-us.org [mailto:peace-discussion-admin@lists.gp-us.org] On Behalf Of Makers of Peace
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 1:14 PM
To: GPAX Discussion List
Subject: [Peace-discussion] http://eggsistense.com/ ~Re: Hattiesburg Noon Southern Miss "Peace and Truth" Promotion
http://eggsistense.com/
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7DBZzfqHf7c WHLT/CBS interview
related article:
http://hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080320/NEWS01/803200349
ALSO ! INTERESTING Statement by
Mark Ely
Chairman, Board of Directors
Center for Human Rights and Civil Liberties
University of Southern Mississippi
http://hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080402/OPINION01/804020343/1014/OPINION
Love and Light, wm and lynn McLean (a.k.a "dirt and trudge")
the Blueberry Peace Farm, Magee, MS, U.S.A., EARTH
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/dirtandsludge our "flog" (Farm Log)
http://members.aye.net/~hippie/real.htm
http://legitgov.com/
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Hi Joni and GPAX, as to your question, <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=125041104-27042008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Are you both part of gpax now?</FONT></SPAN>, Yes as decided upon by the March Steering Executive Council of the Green Party of Mississippi.</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>Lynn McLean, Observer Member GPAX (DivCom: voting Member)</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>William McLean, Voting Member GPAX (DivCom: obsever Member)</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><A href="http://unitedforpeace.org/calendar.php?calid=23004">http://unitedforpeace.org/calendar.php?calid=23004</A> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><A href="http://greenpartyms.org/">http://<STRONG><FONT color=#407f00 size=3>green<FONT color=#ff7f00>party</FONT>ms</FONT></STRONG>.org/</A></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>(need to be place on GPUS-PAX listserv also PLEASE!, by whoever , , , ? ? ?)</DIV> <DIV
dir=ltr align=left> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>We are coming to Chi-Town via Amtrak (already have 7-9 to7-14 reservations & CTA 5 Day passes~transit) for the National GP Gathering this Summer.</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>the current cartoon on <A href="http://eggsistense.com">http://eggsistense.com</A> is about TASER's, which we address Our Magee, MS (Pop 4,200) City Meeting (Alderman/Coucil) last January (<STRONG><FONT color=#407f00>BELOW</FONT></STRONG>). We also do a "Adopt-a-Highway" quarterly: <A href="http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/cpeacesigns/HwyCleanUpSimpsonCoGP.jpg"><FONT size=1>http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/cpeacesigns/</FONT><FONT color=#407f00>HwyCleanUpSimpsonCoGP</FONT><FONT size=1>.jpg</FONT></A> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>(We also addressed it to Law Enforcement with the 501 (C) Social Service Agency that we had in St
Petersburg:</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><U><FONT color=#800080><A href="http://www.stpetersburgtimes.com/2004/10/24/Neighborhoodtimes/Outreach_program_is_a.shtml"><FONT size=1>http://www.stpetersburgtimes.com/2004/10/24/Neighborhoodtimes/</FONT><FONT color=#407f00>Outreach_program</FONT><FONT size=1>_is_a.shtml</FONT></A></FONT></U> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>peace Lovin' You<A href="http://www.stpetersburgtimes.com/2004/10/24/Neighborhoodtimes/Outreach_program_is_a.shtml"></A></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>below copy of Letter addressing TAZER's and other issues</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT size=4> <div><FONT size=2>January 15, 2008</FONT></div>
<div><FONT size=2>TO: Magee City Board of Aldermen</FONT></div> <div><FONT size=2>FROM: William and Lynn McLean</FONT></div> <div><FONT size=2>305 5<SUP>th</SUP> Avenue N.E.</FONT></div> <div><FONT size=2>Magee, MS 39111</FONT></div> <div><FONT size=2>Phone # 601-867-3879</FONT></div> <div><FONT size=2>SUBJECT: Walking Nature Trail, TASER USE POLICY!, more Green Space and Parks to be purchased by Magee City and for more Sidewalks.</FONT></div> <div><FONT size=2></FONT> </div> <div><FONT size=2>Dear Aldermen,</FONT></div> <div><FONT size=2>We would like to address 4 issues.</FONT></div> <OL><B> <LI><FONT size=2>Nature/Walking Trail along the Creek on Our Property</FONT></B></FONT><FONT size=2>: We would like this to move forward as we brought this up 2007. We contact the MS Governor’s "Let’s go walking Mississippi" program and was refered to Wade Overstreet of Blue Cross/Blue Shield which gave 3 million dollars to MS State for "Preventive Health Projects".
(2006) He sounded positive about helping with the walking trail for the 2 sets of stairs, painting crosswalk and any improvement to the Parking area by the H.S. running track. His phone number is (601) 664-4703. He also said a coworker, Kevin Spera, would be able to come down here to look at the Project/Nature/Walking Trial and meet with us and someone from the city. (the only contact for him that we have is email; "Kevin Spera" </FONT><A href="mailto:KSpera@bcbsms.com">KSpera@bcbsms.com</A> ) People already use the H.S. running trfor morning and evening walking and exercise and we feel that this would be an asset to those who enjoy their walking and for their health. We would want for our safety, and safety of our personal belongings (farm equipment, mowers, etc), and as the right of being the owners of the property for and agreement to restrict the walking trail a certain distance from the creek (say 35 ft. from center or 25 ft from the top edge) and that the agreement
would have to be renewed every 5 years. Also, we would want the hours restricted to ½ hr. before sunrise to ½ hr. after sunset. We hope that the City attorney will help us with drawing up the agreement, using the one that we gave you in 2007 as a starting draft. (no motorized vehicles, but bicycles O.K.) </LI><B> <LI>The use of TASERS</B>: Lynn and I set up a 501(c)(3) Social Service Agency in St Petersburg, FL near 5 Day Labors. Only less than half of the people that showed up often got work for the Day. We rented a storefront and had computers that clients could use, received mail for Job applications, medical appointments and so that the client could receive mail from family (Support Net). We had a clothing room where we distributed clothes that the community donated, a "Book Exchange", took phone messages for clients, gave showers and ALWAYS had coffee and pastries as well as donated bread, a weekly AA meeting and a weekly Bible Study. We always stress that our
clients were more important than the volunteers were and the "Outreach" was theirs. We had no paid staff, but had a 9 to 11 member Board of Directors with monthly meetings, which I was the Board President for 2 years. We had concerns for the abuse of Tasers and had the County Sheriff’s Community relations officer come to hear our concerns of the misuse of Tasers, especially on the disabled, with physical or mental health issues. Please see the last 2 pages of this package for more information. We are concerned for the Magee Police getting Tasers now. We feel that they need to be only used with extreme discretion and with strict guidelines for their use. The Company, "TASER International, Inc" is out to make profits and their information on their products can be misleading, claiming they are "Harmless". They say they cause no permanent harm, but the "fuller truth" is that is that they can and have cause harm, both mentally and physically including death (over 160 cases!)
and long term mental problems of anxiety and PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder). This is especially true when they are abused or used as "Punishment" by a police officer. Punishment is for the Courts to decide not a policeman. We were given assurance by Chief Davidson that there was much Thought and Research put into the Guidelines and Policy for the use of the use of a TASER. We greatly appreciate this, and hope that is successful in the prevention of the misuse of the TASER and he said the issues for not using them on CITIZENS already handcuffed, children, pregnant women and with discretion if used on CITIZENS with mental health issues. Please see the articles that we included are read. They include some "horror stories". Perhaps, there should be a Citizens Review Board to review if they are used within the policy and guidelines!</LI><B> <LI>We hope that as Magee grows, so does the City own "Green Spaces" as well as having more parks:</B> A priority should be placed
on this and NOT just "put to the back burner".</LI><B> <LI>We need more sidewalks in Magee:</B> As our 4<SUP>th</SUP> issue, this should be a priority and true progress should be made in this area!</LI></OL> <div>Thank you for your thoughtful consideration of these 4 issues that we bring up. Our Alderman, Mr. Brown has assured us that we are always Welcomed at the Board of Aldermen’s meetings for Citizen Input and comments and to keep us informed and to be a positive part of Our Community of Magee. We feel Magee is one of the most beautiful and best cities/Communities in Mississippi and America. </div> <div>Sincerely, William and Lynn McLean</div> <div>305 5<SUP>th</SUP> Avenue NE, Magee, MS</div><BR><BR><B><I>Joni LeViness <myths16@cox.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16640" name=GENERATOR> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=125041104-27042008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Wonderful MoP!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=125041104-27042008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Beautiful photo of you two as well!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=125041104-27042008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Are you both part of gpax now?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=125041104-27042008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>I was the secretary at one point but last August i was left trying to do way too much to keep active and</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=125041104-27042008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>even somewhat useful on this list, this wonderful group.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=125041104-27042008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Peace,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=125041104-27042008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>joni</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr
align=left><SPAN class=125041104-27042008></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=125041104-27042008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><BR> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left> <HR tabIndex=-1> <FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> peace-discussion-admin@lists.gp-us.org [mailto:peace-discussion-admin@lists.gp-us.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Makers of Peace<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 24, 2008 1:14 PM<BR><B>To:</B> GPAX Discussion List<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Peace-discussion] http://eggsistense.com/ ~Re: Hattiesburg Noon Southern Miss "Peace and Truth" Promotion<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eggsistense.com/EggsIsTense4.jpg" target=_blank rel=nofollow><IMG height=496 src="http://eggsistense.com/files/EggsIsTense4.jpg" width=740 border=0 NOSEND="1"></A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eggsistense.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow><FONT color=#003399>http://</FONT><STRONG><FONT
color=#407f00 size=4>eggsistense</FONT></STRONG><FONT color=#003399>.com/</FONT></A><BR><BR></DIV> <DIV><A href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=7DBZzfqHf7c" target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1208111925_1 style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%"><FONT color=#003399>http://youtube.com/watch?v=7DBZzfqHf7c</FONT></SPAN></A> <STRONG><FONT color=#ff7f00><U>WHLT/CBS interview</U></FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>related article:</DIV> <DIV><A href="http://hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080320/NEWS01/803200349" target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1207496612_1><FONT color=#003399 size=1>http://<STRONG><FONT color=#00007f size=2>hattiesburgamerican.com</FONT></STRONG>/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080320/NEWS01/803200349</FONT></SPAN></A> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>ALSO ! INTERESTING Statement by</DIV> <DIV>Mark Ely</DIV> <DIV>Chairman, Board of Directors</DIV>
<DIV>Center for Human Rights and Civil Liberties</DIV> <DIV>University of Southern Mississippi</DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><A href="http://hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080402/OPINION01/804020343/1014/OPINION" target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN class=yshortcuts><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#003399 size=1><SPAN style="COLOR: #003399"><SPAN id=lw_1207249331_0>http://<STRONG><FONT color=#00007f size=2><FONT face=arial>hattiesburgamerican</FONT>.com</FONT></STRONG>/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080402/OPINION01/804020343/1014/OPINION</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></A><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR><BR> <DIV>Love and Light, wm and lynn McLean (a.k.a "dirt and trudge")</DIV> <DIV>the Blueberry Peace Farm, Magee, MS, U.S.A., EARTH </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2> <DIV></FONT><A href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/dirtandsludge">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/dirtandsludge</A> our "flog" (Farm Log)</DIV>
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