[Peace-discussion] YouTube: Ellsberg-NO Executive Privilege If Impeachment Hearings
Jim Dorenkott
jimdorenkott3@yahoo.com
Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:36:14 -0700 (PDT)
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Hi,
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This is a 2 minute statement by Daniel Ellsberg why impeachment
hearings are unique and get beyond executive privilege. Call Chairman
John Conyets and tell him we need these hearings to start now.
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. Call Congress at (202) 224-3121 and ask your
representative to urge Chairman Conyers to begin impeachment hearings
against George Bush and Dick Cheney, Email Congress, send a letter, send a =
postcard, lobby in person, honk to impeach, sit in. Here's a kit for effect=
ive lobbying. And send John Conyers THIS LETTER.
2. Sign Congressman Wexler's petition. And please spread this flyer far and=
wide until Cheney is impeached. Keep these cards in your wallet.
3. Call the House Judiciary Committee staff at 202-225-3951. Help lobby mem=
bers of the House Judiciary Committee and Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Contact con=
tributors to House Judiciary Committee members.
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JIm
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DdZVTmz9ljVY
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Daniel Ellsberg spoke at the Unitarian Universalist Church on Sunday
March 30. His talk, "Must America Remain an Outlaw State?" was on the
occasion of War and Law League (WALL), tenth birthday. http://www.warandlaw=
.org/files/index.html=20
WALL, founded in March 1998, is a nonpartisan, nonprofit, San
Francisco--based group that wants the U.S. to follow its Constitution,
its treaties, and customary international law insofar as they concern
war and peace.=20
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Transcript
In terms of hearings for impeachment, I have heard that when a
hearing is held in congress for impeachment that the president cannot
claim executive privilege, and that people have to testify. Is this
true?
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As far as I understand it that is true and it is an advantage over a
simple investigative hearing, (video starts) and of course they are not
supposed to perjure themselves. That doesn't mean that the witnesses
who come forward -- who are subpoenaed and come forward - will tell the
truth. It does mean that they are subject in theory to perjury charges.
But it does mean that the administration cannot order people not to
come. That's very important.
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Because the purpose of whether it's impeachment hearings or
investigative hearings into crimes of the government which John Conyers
has talked about. Right? I was in a meeting where he talked about that
- having them; said he would have them, but, haven't happened yet.
Investigative hearings on crimes that may have been committed, fine;
and that - would almost inevitably point to impeachment and that will
make them just as leery of holding those hearings as they are of
impeachment hearings.
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But, if you did hold the impeachment hearings you could get these
people; and he could not order people, as Bush has done, not to
appear.The importance of that is that there are people who would love
to tell the truth if they are subpoenaed, and, if they can't be fired
for appearing. And those are the people to get.
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A friend of mine is very anxious to see Cheney under oath. I said, I
wouldn't give a dime for that. The chance of getting the truth out of
Cheney under oath, you know, is just negligible.
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But there are a lot of people who would be happy to tell if they were press=
ed to do it.
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<table cellspacing='0' cellpadding='0' border='0' ><tr><td valign='top' style='font: inherit;'><p>Hi,</p>
<p> </p>
<p>This is a 2 minute statement by Daniel Ellsberg why impeachment
hearings are unique and get beyond executive privilege. Call Chairman
John Conyets and tell him we need these hearings to start now.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>.</strong> Call Congress at (202) 224-3121 and ask your
representative to urge Chairman Conyers to begin impeachment hearings
against George Bush and Dick Cheney, <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.democrats.com/peoplesemailnetwork/125">Email Congress</a>, send <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/24581">a letter</a>, send <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=postcards">a postcard</a>, <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/howto333">lobby in person</a>, <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.democrats.com/honktoimpeach">honk to impeach</a>, <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=taxonomy/term/14">sit in</a>. Here's a <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/lobbykit">kit</a> for effective lobbying. And send John Conyers <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/33888">THIS LETTER</a>.</p>
<p><b>2.</b> Sign Congressman Wexler's <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://wexlerwantshearings.com/">petition</a>. And please spread <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/downloads/lutherflyer.pdf">this flyer</a> far and wide until Cheney is impeached. Keep <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/30629">these cards</a> in your wallet.</p>
<p><b>3.</b> Call the House Judiciary Committee staff at 202-225-3951. Help lobby <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/judiciarycommittee">members of the House Judiciary Committee and Speaker Nancy Pelosi.</a> Contact <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://yaliesforimpeachment.org/index.html#members">contributors</a> to House Judiciary Committee members.</p>
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<p>JIm</p>
<p> </p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=dZVTmz9ljVY"><font color="#003399">http://youtube.com/watch?v=dZVTmz9ljVY</font></a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Daniel Ellsberg spoke at the Unitarian Universalist Church on Sunday
March 30. His talk, "Must America Remain an Outlaw State?" was on the
occasion of War and Law League (WALL), tenth birthday. <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.warandlaw.org/files/index.html"><font color="#003399">http://www.warandlaw.org/files/index.html</font></a> </p>
<p>WALL, founded in March 1998, is a nonpartisan, nonprofit, San
Francisco--based group that wants the U.S. to follow its Constitution,
its treaties, and customary international law insofar as they concern
war and peace. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Transcript</p>
<p><br>In terms of hearings for impeachment, I have heard that when a
hearing is held in congress for impeachment that the president cannot
claim executive privilege, and that people have to testify. Is this
true?</p>
<p> </p>
<p>As far as I understand it that is true and it is an advantage over a
simple investigative hearing, (video starts) and of course they are not
supposed to perjure themselves. That doesn't mean that the witnesses
who come forward -- who are subpoenaed and come forward - will tell the
truth. It does mean that they are subject in theory to perjury charges.
But it does mean that the administration cannot order people not to
come. That's very important.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Because the purpose of whether it's impeachment hearings or
investigative hearings into crimes of the government which John Conyers
has talked about. Right? I was in a meeting where he talked about that
- having them; said he would have them, but, haven't happened yet.
Investigative hearings on crimes that may have been committed, fine;
and that - would almost inevitably point to impeachment and that will
make them just as leery of holding those hearings as they are of
impeachment hearings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>But, if you did hold the impeachment hearings you could get these
people; and he could not order people, as Bush has done, not to
appear.The importance of that is that there are people who would love
to tell the truth if they are subpoenaed, and, if they can't be fired
for appearing. And those are the people to get.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>A friend of mine is very anxious to see Cheney under oath. I said, I
wouldn't give a dime for that. The chance of getting the truth out of
Cheney under oath, you know, is just negligible.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>But there are a lot of people who would be happy to tell if they were pressed to do it.</p><br></td></tr></table><br>
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