[Peace-discussion] As Disaffiliation and Implosion loom: Bloomberg and McKinney Greens Request GPCA To Begin Process for Removal ofHenry Duke
henry duke
henryduke2004@yahoo.com
Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:29:05 -0700
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We need to prepare for transition and building a democratic and accountable
electoral front for the movement.
-henry
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Please forward to green friendly, and California green friendly lists.
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:18 PM
Subject: RE: [gpus-del] Request to Begin Process for
Resignation/RemovalofHenry Duke
Well put, I am willing at a gpca plenary to resign if there is a GPCA
process, reflective of even a majority of California greens, who feel that I
should be removed.
Nice to know some people have a little practical sense and morals.
The McKinney and Anti-Nader folks - what they did to Elaine Brown is just
the most recent and most egregious - are relentlessly anti-democratic, but
at least they have the power.
Against Cynical Power,
For the people,
Henry Duke
PS Thanks Bill
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From: gpus-del-bounces@lists.cagreens.org
[mailto:gpus-del-bounces@lists.cagreens.org] On Behalf Of William Meyers
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:40 PM
To: 'Delegates from GPCA to GPUS'
Subject: Re: [gpus-del] Request to Begin Process for
Resignation/RemovalofHenry Duke
Though I'm not fond of Henry Duke's use of the list, if any threshold for
removal is established based on non-participation in voting, I think that
every delegate who failed to meet that threshold should also be removed.
If committee members are suggesting that Henry should be removed for
participating, because of the content or tone of his emails, that is a
different matter. It is entirely a judgement call. It could be a bad
precedent. About as far as I am willing to go is to recommend to the GA that
Henry's term be terminated. Just because I don't like what he says or how he
says it does not mean he does not represent some group within the Green
Party of California.
Bill Meyers
-----Original Message-----
From: gpus-del-bounces@lists.cagreens.org
[mailto:gpus-del-bounces@lists.cagreens.org] On Behalf Of Sanda Everette
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:25 PM
To: Delegates from GPCA to GPUS
Subject: Re: [gpus-del] Request to Begin Process for Resignation/Removal
ofHenry Duke
I acknowledge this request and will put it on the agenda. I have already
researched his voting record. May I delegate to someone else researching
his participation in teleconferences and on the list serve?
Sanda, co-co
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Linda Piera-Avila <lindap_a@verizon.net>
wrote:
I affirm this request.
Thank you, Warner.
Linda Piera-Avila
--- WSB3GPUS@aol.com wrote:
> To the Co-Coordinators of the GPUS Delegation:
>
> I request that consideration of requesting Henry
> Duke to resign as a
> delegate, or, in the alternative, requesting that
> the GPCA Coordinating Committee
> remove him as
> a delegate, pursuant to the following bylaw be
> started by placing this issue
> on the agenda for the next GPUS Delegates
> teleconference.
>
> I request that the CoCos provide the following
> information, to the extent it
> is available, for purposes of those discussions:
> (a) Henry Duke's
> teleconference attendance record; (b) Henry Duke's
> participation on this email list;
> (c) Henry Duke's participation record on GPUS GNC
> voting.
>
> Warner Bloomberg
>
>
> 11-2.4 Resignations/Removals.
> The GPCA CC may remove a delegate by consensus or an
> 80% vote. The only
> reasons for removal are failing to perform the
> duties of a delegate and
> malfeasance. Since delegates may ask alternates to
> vote for them, or a Coordinator to
> find an alternate to vote for them, failure to vote
> is not in itself failure
> to perform one's duty. When delegates habitually
> fail to perform their
> duties, the Co-coordinators of the delegation will
> discuss the situation with those
> delegates. If the situation continues or recurs
> without the delegates
> resigning, the Co-coordinators will cause it to be
> discussed in a meeting of the
> entire delegation, which will decide whether to ask
> for resignations or turn
> over the matter to the GPCA CC.
>
>
>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>We need to prepare for transition =
and
building a democratic and accountable electoral front for the =
movement.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>-henry<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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green
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font =
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Tuesday, March 11,
2008 6:18 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [gpus-del] =
Request to
Begin Process for Resignation/RemovalofHenry =
Duke</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well put, I am willing at a gpca =
plenary
to resign if there is a GPCA process, reflective of even a majority of =
<st1:place
w:st=3D"on"><st1:State w:st=3D"on">California</st1:State></st1:place> =
greens, who
feel that I should be removed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nice to know some people have a =
little
practical sense and morals.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The <st1:place =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on">McKinney</st1:City></st1:place>
and Anti-Nader folks – what they did to Elaine Brown is just the =
most
recent and most egregious – are relentlessly anti-democratic, but =
at
least they have the power.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Against Cynical =
Power,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For the =
people,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Henry =
Duke<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>PS Thanks =
Bill<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
gpus-del-bounces@lists.cagreens.org
[mailto:gpus-del-bounces@lists.cagreens.org] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>William Meyers<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 11, =
2008 4:40
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">Delegates
from GPCA to GPUS</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [gpus-del] =
Request to
Begin Process for Resignation/RemovalofHenry =
Duke</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Though I'm not fond of Henry Duke's =
use of
the list, if any threshold for removal is established based on
non-participation in voting, I think that every delegate who failed to =
meet
that threshold should also be removed.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>If committee members are suggesting =
that
Henry should be removed for participating, because of the content or =
tone of
his emails, that is a different matter. It is entirely a judgement call. =
It could
be a bad precedent. About as far as I am willing to go is to recommend =
to the
GA that Henry's term be terminated. Just because I don't like what he =
says or
how he says it does not mean he does not represent some group =
within the
Green Party of California.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
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Meyers</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
gpus-del-bounces@lists.cagreens.org
[mailto:gpus-del-bounces@lists.cagreens.org] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Sanda Everette<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 11, =
2008 4:25
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">Delegates
from GPCA to GPUS</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [gpus-del] =
Request to
Begin Process for Resignation/Removal ofHenry =
Duke<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I acknowledge =
this
request and will put it on the agenda. I have already researched =
his
voting record. May I delegate to someone else researching his
participation in teleconferences and on the list serve?<br>
Sanda, co-co<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Linda Piera-Avila <<a
href=3D"mailto:lindap_a@verizon.net">lindap_a@verizon.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I affirm this request.<br>
Thank you, Warner.<br>
<br>
Linda Piera-Avila<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<br>
<br>
--- <a href=3D"mailto:WSB3GPUS@aol.com">WSB3GPUS@aol.com</a> wrote:<br>
<br>
> To the Co-Coordinators of the GPUS Delegation:<br>
><br>
> I request that consideration of requesting Henry<br>
> Duke to resign as a<br>
> delegate, or, in the alternative, requesting that<br>
> the GPCA Coordinating Committee<br>
> remove him as<br>
> a delegate, pursuant to the following bylaw be<br>
> started by placing this issue<br>
> on the agenda for the next GPUS Delegates<br>
> teleconference.<br>
><br>
> I request that the CoCos provide the following<br>
> information, to the extent it<br>
> is available, for purposes of those discussions:<br>
> (a) Henry Duke's<br>
> teleconference attendance record; (b) Henry Duke's<br>
> participation on this email list;<br>
> (c) Henry Duke's participation record on GPUS GNC<br>
> voting.<br>
><br>
> Warner Bloomberg<br>
><br>
><br>
> 11-2.4 Resignations/Removals.<br>
> The GPCA CC may remove a delegate by consensus or an<br>
> 80% vote. The only<br>
> reasons for removal are failing to perform the<br>
> duties of a delegate and<br>
> malfeasance. Since delegates may ask alternates to<br>
> vote for them, or a Coordinator to<br>
> find an alternate to vote for them, failure to vote<br>
> is not in itself failure<br>
> to perform one's duty. When delegates habitually<br>
> fail to perform their<br>
> duties, the Co-coordinators of the delegation will<br>
> discuss the situation with those<br>
> delegates. If the situation continues or recurs<br>
> without the delegates<br>
> resigning, the Co-coordinators will cause it to be<br>
> discussed in a meeting of the<br>
> entire delegation, which will decide whether to ask<br>
> for resignations or turn<br>
> over the matter to the GPCA CC.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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