[Peace-discussion] re: Censuring False Greens For Irresponsibility: Loose Cannon
Henry Duke destroying Nader's campaign!
Drew Johnson
JamBoi@Greens.org
Tue, 13 May 2008 08:45:31 -0700 (PDT)
Henry there's very little personal or 'spiteful' in my call for you to
resign your GPCA delegate position to the National Committee. Personally
I agree with many of your issues and concerns and I've made that point to
you over and over again -- let me explain again as to 'my teens' as you
say. Its the irresponsible, destructive behavior that I'm criticizing and
which you refuse to address.
When you make wild claims, spread rumors and innuendos that are so
extremely destructive of the Green Party, I'm not going to remain silent.
Get used to being called to accountability for your misbehavior, because
its just going to get more and more intense until you take responsibility
and cease and desist from spreading lies about other Green Party members
whether they be Mirkarimi, McKinney, me or whoever. Smears, half-lies,
innuendos are completely unacceptable behavior. Over and over again you
fail to check your facts and put out garbage that hurts other Greens. Its
not about you having or expressing an opinion. Its about you putting
forth falsehoods. Resign now Henry. Go work on Nader's campaign and do
something positive for the planet.
Henry puhhhhleze, don't try to cloak yourself in victimhood. You are the
one putting out innuendo after innuendo. As the article explains re:
McKinney's Three Strike vote (did you even bother reading it?) the
Dem/Repub leadership cleverly embedded this noxious bill in a package with
a misleading name. McKinney is a
I'm not 'retreating' -- another classic innuendo btw -- from calling for
your censure. I'm pushing forward on censure. I'd already called for
your resignation and I continue to challenge you to resign your delegate
position. I'm *adding* censure to my challenge to you to resign.
I'm also not a Liberal, so again you miss the mark. I don't live in Santa
Cruz. I'm not a 'McKinney supporter' -- I'm a Mesplay/Swift campaign
coordinator!!!! You're full of unchecked, incorrect, false information
Henry.
Get used to being called to account for your actions Henry because it will
only intensify...
Green is Fact-checking!
Drew Johnson
GPCA delegate
Duke wrote:
Must you be so spiteful Mr Drew?
You so thoughtfully called for my immediate censure, and now you retreat to
your perseverative begging that I make you comfortable and happy by
resigning.
As I have to tell you like my teenagers over and over, I will not resign my
elected positions until after the convention, and at that time I will
consider it based on how responsible and accountable or irresponsible,
unaccountable, irreformable, and a waste of my time I deem the GPCA to be. I
will most likely stay registered green, and I'm sorry if that disappoints
you.
Again, would you please cease and decist from personally attacking my right
to have an opinion about leading greens endorsing Obama while I continue to
be a hard working green activist for peace and healthcare for all that
happens to support Ralph Nader.
There is room for both of us in my opinion, but you spread a very negative
and spiteful culture to a political discourse and debate which wastes
everybody's time.
Good luck with getting a little grace!
Hank
On Mon, May 12, 2008 20:19, henry duke wrote:
> To Drew Johnson and the Many McKinney Supporters Attacking the Veracity of
> my Statements or Begging Me to Leave Our Party Because The Truth Disturbs
> Them, I remind you I am a very busy physician and have been drawn into
> such
> pettiness because they perseverate on implying I am making things up or
> making innuendo.
>
>
>
> For the record I appreciate McKinney as I do many "big people" who while
> imperfect are important and valuable people for our peace and justice
> movement. Let us now however lie for them and imply that they were never
> promoting 3 strikes or that they were not one of many congress folks, like
> even Dennis Kucinich who I also appreciate - that voted against Barbara
> Lee
> to authorize the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan.
>
>
>
>
>
> Fact One: Ross Mirkarami did endorse Barrack Obama after being the highest
> elected green in California previously promoting Cynthia McKinney and
> opposing her to Ralph Nader.
>
>
>
> Fact Two: on vote 416 Cynthia McKinney voted for this death penalty
> federal
> 3 strikes law which web site is below and where you can read very clearly
> how it is pro-death penalty including for minors and that it mandates life
> sentences even if one of the 3 strikes was not a violent crime.
>
>
>
> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d103:h.r.3355:
>
>
>
> Drew Johnson can keep lying and using lies to bully me so he can be an
> unchallenged oppressor of those of us who speak up for the silenced, I beg
> you sire, you are so super smart, so super compassionate, please cease and
> desist from your personal vendetta against me. I am not trying to silence
> you or your anti-Nader or pro-mcKinney or pro-Obama greens. We must
> tolerate
> and respect, but we must also not censor facts and truths lest we co-sign
> once again the pathological violence the corporate system is based on.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> H.R.3355
> Title: To amend the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 to
> allow grants to increase police presence, to expand and improve
> cooperative
> efforts between law enforcement agencies and members of the community to
> address crime and disorder problems, and otherwise to enhance public
> safety.
>
> Sponsor: Rep
> <http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&Db=d103&querybd=@FIELD%28FLD003+@4%
> 28%28@1%28Rep+Brooks++Jack+B.%29%29+00127%29%29> Brooks, Jack B. [TX-9]
> (introduced 10/26/1993) Cosponsors
> <http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d103:HR03355:@@@P> (2)
> Related Bills: H.RES.517
> <http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d103:HE00517:> , H.RES.522
> <http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d103:HE00522:> , H.RES.526
> <http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d103:HE00526:> , H.R.4092
> <http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d103:HR04092:> , S.1607
> <http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d103:SN01607:>
> Latest Major Action: 9/13/1994 Became Public Law No: 103-322.
>
> _____
>
> SUMMARY AS OF:
> 8/21/1994--Conference report filed in House. (There are 4 other
> <http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d103:HR03355:@@@D&summ1&>
> summaries)
>
> Title VI: Death Penalty - Federal Death Penalty Act of 1994 - Amends the
> Federal criminal code to provide for the imposition of the death penalty
> for
> specified drug-related offenses committed as part of a continuing criminal
> enterprise, for treason or espionage, and for specified other offenses for
> which the death sentence is provided if a defendant intentionally: (1)
> killed the victim; (2) inflicted serious bodily injury resulting in death;
> (3) participated in an act contemplating that the life of a person would
> be
> taken or intending that lethal force would be used and the victim died as
> a
> direct result; or (4) and specifically engaged in an act of violence,
> knowing that the act created a grave risk of death and thus constituted a
> reckless disregard for human life, and the victim died as a direct result
> of
> the act.
>
> Sets forth provisions regarding: (1) mitigating and aggravating factors to
> be considered in determining whether a sentence of death is justified,
> including aggravating factors for a drug offense death penalty; (2) the
> conduct of a special hearing to make such determination; (3) procedures
> for
> the imposition, review, and implementation of such sentence; (4) use of
> State facilities to carry out such sentence; and (5) special provisions
> for
> Indian country.
>
> (Sec. 60003) Authorizes the death penalty for various offenses, including,
> where death results: (1) hostage taking; (2) murder for hire; (3)
> racketeering; (4) genocide; (5) carjacking; (6) rape and child molestation
> murders; (7) sexual exploitation of children; (8) homicides involving
> firearms in Federal facilities; (9) murder of Federal witnesses; (10)
> foreign murder of U.S. nationals; (11) civil rights murders; (12) murder
> by
> a Federal prisoner, or by escaped prisoners; (13) drive-by shootings; (14)
> gun murders during Federal crimes of violence and drug trafficking crimes;
> (15) murder of State or local officials assisting Federal law enforcement
> officials and State correctional officers;(16) use of weapons of mass
> destruction; (17) violence at international airports; (18) violence
> against
> maritime navigation or fixed platforms; (19) torture; and (20) kidnapping.
>
> (Sec. 60016) Repeals a limitation on the fine for influencing or injuring
> a
> court officer, grand juror, or petit juror. Sets penalties for the killing
> and attempted killing of such individuals.
>
> (Sec. 60017) Prohibits and sets penalties for retaliatory killings of
> witnesses, victims, and informants.
>
> (Sec. 60024) Enhances penalties for alien smuggling.
>
> (Sec. 60025) Makes an exception to the requirement that the court furnish
> to
> a defendant a list of the veniremen and witnesses if the court finds by a
> preponderance of the evidence that providing the list may jeopardize the
> life or safety of any person.
>
> (Sec. 60026) Revises provisions regarding the appointment of counsel in
> capital cases. Requires the court: (1) to promptly, upon the defendant's
> request, assign two counsel of whom at least one shall be learned in the
> law
> applicable to capital cases and who shall have free access to the accused
> at
> all reasonable hours; and (2) in assigning counsel, to consider the
> recommendation of the Federal Public Defender organization or, if no such
> organization exists in the district, the Administrative Office.
>
> Title VII: Mandatory Life Imprisonment for Persons Convicted of Certain
> Felonies - Requires that a person convicted in a court of the United
> States
> of a serious violent felony be sentenced to life imprisonment if: (1) the
> person has been convicted on separate prior occasions in a Federal or
> State
> court of two or more serious violent felonies, or of one or more serious
> violent felonies and one or more serious drug offenses; and (2) each
> serious
> violent felony or serious drug offense used as a basis for sentencing
> under
> such provision, other than the first, was committed after the defendant's
> conviction of the preceding serious violent felony or serious drug
> offense.
>
> (Sec. 70002) Limits the authority of a court to modify an imposed term of
> imprisonment to include a requirement that the defendant be at least age
> 70
> and have served at least 30 years in prison for the offense or offenses
> for
> which the defendant is currently imprisoned, and that a determination has
> been made by the Director of the Bureau of Prisons that the defendant is
> not
> a danger to the safety of any other person or the community.
>
> Title VIII: Applicability of Mandatory Minimum Penalties in Certain Cases
> -
> Amends the Federal criminal code to require the court to impose a
> sentencing
> for specified drug-related offenses pursuant to Sentencing Commission
> guidelines and without regard to any statutory minimum sentence, if the
> court finds, after the Government has been afforded the opportunity to
> make
> recommendation, that: (1) the defendant does not have more than one
> criminal
> history point and did not use violence or credible threats of violence or
> possess a firearm or other dangerous weapon (or induce another participant
> to do so) in connection with the offense; (2) the offense did to result in
> death or serious bodily injury to any person; (3) the defendant was not an
> organizer, leader, manager, or supervisor of others in the offense and was
> not engaged in a continuing criminal enterprise; and (4) the defendant has
> truthfully provided to the Government all information and evidence the
> defendant has concerning the offense (but the fact that the defendant has
> no
> relevant or useful other information to provide or that Government is
> already aware of the information shall not preclude a determination by the
> court that the defendant has complied with this requirement).
>
> Specifies that, in the case of a defendant for whom the statutorily
> required
> minimum sentence is five years, sentencing guidelines shall call for a
> range
> in which the lowest term of imprisonment is at least 24 months.
>
> Title IX: Drug Control - Subtitle A: Enhanced Penalties and General
> Provisions - Amends the Federal criminal code to enhance penalties for
> drug
> trafficking in Federal prisons.
>
> (Sec. 90102) Directs the Sentencing Commission to amend its sentencing
> guidelines to appropriately enhance the penalties for drug-dealing in
> "drug-free" zones and for illegal drug use in, and smuggling drugs into,
> Federal prisons.
>
> (Sec. 90106) Prohibits advertising which aims to illegally solicit or sell
> drugs.
>
> (Sec. 90107) Authorizes the President, if a major violent crime or
> drug-related emergency (i.e., where violent crime or drug smuggling,
> trafficking, or abuse reaches such levels that Federal assistance is
> needed
> to supplement State and local efforts and capabilities to save lives and
> protect property, public health, and safety) exists in a State (including
> the District of Columbia and specified U.S. territories), to declare such
> State or part of a State to be a violent crime or drug emergency area and
> to
> take action to alleviate the emergency. Sets forth provisions regarding
> procedures and requirements for declaration of an emergency, irrelevancy
> of
> population density in determining whether an emergency exist, and forms
> and
> duration of Federal assistance.
>
> Subtitle B: National Narcotics Leadership Act Amendments - Amends the
> National Narcotics Leadership Act of 1988 to require the Director of
> National Drug Control Policy to request the head of a department or agency
> to include in its budget submission to the Office of Management and Budget
> funding requests for specific initiatives. Directs each agency to comply
> with such request.
>
> Requires the Director to provide, by July 1 of each year, budget
> recommendations to the heads of departments and agencies with
> responsibilities under the National Drug Control Program, which shall
> apply
> to the second following fiscal year and address funding priorities
> developed
> in the annual National Drug Control Strategy (Strategy).
>
> Revises such Act with respect to the use of temporary detail personnel.
> Sets
> forth further provisions regarding the control of drug-related resources,
> funds control notices, and certification of the adequacy of the budget
> request.
>
> (Sec. 90202) Prohibits a Federal officer in the Office of National Drug
> Control Policy (Office) who is appointed by the President, by and with the
> advice and consent of the Senate, from participating in Federal election
> campaign activities, except for making contributions to individual
> candidates.
>
> (Sec. 90203) Requires the Director to include in each evaluation of the
> effectiveness of Federal drug control during the preceding year which is
> submitted with each Strategy, assessments of the reduction of drug use,
> drug
> availability, and the consequences of drug use and availability and a
> determination of the status of drug treatment in the United States. Sets
> forth additional requirements, including assessments of the quality of
> current drug use measurement instruments and techniques and identification
> of specific factors that restrict the availability of treatment services.
>
> (Sec. 90204) Requires the Director of: (1) National Drug Control Policy to
> examine addiction and rehabilitation research and the application of
> technology to expanding the effectiveness or availability of drug
> treatment;
> and (2) the Advanced Research Project Agency to render assistance and
> support to the Office and its Director.
>
> (Sec. 90205) Revises provisions regarding deposits into the Special
> Forfeiture Fund and transfers from DOJ's Assets Forfeiture Fund and the
> Department of the Treasury Forfeiture Fund.
>
> Amends the Asset Forfeiture Amendments Act of 1988 to provide for the use
> of
> certain unobligated balances remaining in the Special Forfeiture Fund for
> drug control activities of any Federal agency or State or local entity
> with
> responsibilities under the Strategy, subject to advance written approval
> of
> the House and Senate Appropriations Committees.
>
> (Sec. 90206) Authorizes appropriations.
>
> (Sec. 90207) Authorizes the Director to appoint up to 75 and such
> additional
> officers and employees as necessary to carry out functions of the Office.
>
> (Sec. 90208) Terminates the Office on September 30, 1997.
>
>
>
>
>
> Hank
>
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