[Peace-discussion] Re: [GPUS-PAX] Re: [G-C-F] VIDEO: Global Green 2008 - Ross Mirkarimi - Withdrawals Support 4 McKinney To Obama

[Aimee Smith]

Drew,
You forwarded a private email relating to discussions on
the GPAX list and natl affairs list to this third list?  I don't
understand why and am not willing to have this discussion
here.

Aimee

On May 16, 2008, at 4:45 AM, Drew Johnson wrote:

> Absolutely its a strong accusation v Henry, and sure one could term it
> violent.  As you like to point out Aimee, we Greens *do* reserve =20
> the right
> to act violently in self-defense and that is how I see this situation.
>
> Henry is facing a censure resolution in the GPCA delegation.  You =20
> like to
> talk about accountability Aimee, and now you're going to get to see an
> attempt to hold Henry to accountability.
>
> You are misinterpreting my point of view to say I am putting Henry =20
> in the
> 'evil box'.  No, not at all.  That does not accurately represent my =20=

> point
> of view towards him in any way.  Personally I have enjoyed talking =20
> with
> Henry and I share many of his interests, issues and concerns.  I am =20=

> simply
> objecting to his over-the-top posting behavior that is destructive =20
> of the
> GPCA and the GP-US.  IMO it is perfectly acceptable for an =20
> organization,
> including a Green organization to have behavioral standards that it
> enforces.
>
> As for the staff, I do agree with you that there seems to be a lack of
> guidance and direction from the NC and SC towards staff and there is a
> lack of accountability structure.  When I say that I am not making =20
> *any*
> statement one way or the other about any specific situation, I'm =20
> merely
> observing a lack of structure.  I also observe that along with that =20=

> lack
> of structure there is also no contracts for the staff (if I'm
> understanding that correctly) and I think that is reprehensible.  =20
> So I do
> think we NCers need to get on the ball and create some sound =20
> structure for
> the staff.
>
> The Brown/McMillan affair is a whole thing unto itself that I will =20
> refrain
> from making assessments on at this time.
>
>
> Green is Reality-based!
>
> Drew Johnson
> GPCA delegate
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2008 22:46, Aimee Smith wrote:
>> Saboteur?
>>
>> That sounds like a strong accusation.  Maybe some
>> would even call it violent.
>>
>> Are you sure this might not be as complicated as the
>> Brown affair?
>>
>> It seems to me you have put Duke in the evil box, and
>> thus no holds barred on him.  Yet you expect people who
>> mistrust people like Brent to hold to a higher standard of
>> discourse.
>>
>> And I would like to add that much of my distrust for Brent is
>> really structural and not personal.  I think there is no meaningful
>> accountability for staff in orgs structured as ours is.  That isn't
>> his fault, other than what he does to further the pattern, but he
>> should be held accountable for speaking in such a way on
>> behalf of our party and apologies should have been made
>> asap.
>>
>> In any case, do you see the double standard here?
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Aimee
>>
>>
>> On May 12, 2008, at 6:32 PM, Drew Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> For the Green Party their's no benefit to supporting people who are
>>> not
>>> our candidates, whether they be Obama OR Nader.  They are NOT GP-US
>>> candidates!!!  Go work on Nader's campaign constructively Henry,
>>> and leave
>>> the Greens to do our tough work pulling ourselves together.  We =20
>>> have a
>>> hard enough time without saboteurs like yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>> Green is GREEN!
>>>
>>> Drew Johnson
>>> GPCA delegate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 11, 2008 08:52, Henry D. wrote:
>>>> What are the benefits to the Green Party to supporting long term
>>>> democrats
>>>> McKinney or Obama as Ross has done?
>>>>
>>>> What are the benefits to the green party to supporting non-long =20
>>>> term
>>>> democrats like Nader and former Green Party leader Matt Gonzalez?
>>>>
>>>> Mike Feinstein <mfeinstein@feinstein.org> wrote:           VIDEO:
>>>> Global
>>>> Greens 2008 - Ross Mirkarimi (USA) (English)
>>>>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOyT1q2ebHlo
>>>>  12:25
>>>>
>>>>  Ross Mirkarimi, San Francisco Board of Supervisors, speaks about
>>>> actions
>>>>  he's taken on the municipal level to deal with climate change.
>>>>  Global Greens Second Congress 2008. May 1-4, 2008.
>>>>  Fundacao Memorial da America Latina. S=E3o Paulo, Brazil.
>>>>  www.sfgov.org/mirkarimi www.rossmirkarimi.com
>>>>  www.cagreens.org www.gp.org www.globalgreens.org
>>>>
>>>>  For videos of each individual speaker at the entire Congress, see
>>>>  www.globalgreens.org/brazil2008/videos
>>>>
>>>>  For streaming video of the Congress as a whole, see
>>>>  www.proempresa.inf.br/sites/600/657/00000311.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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