[Pnp-wg] RE: Pnp-wg digest, Vol 1 #227 - 5 msgs

[jamais vu']

I reject that our final reccomendations will be "sparse"  and find Phil's 
post offensive. I don't have time to post as often as him, or read the posts 
multiple times per day, but I have been following the general discussions 
and debates.

I can understand the frustration of the PCSC but to "go ahead" is unfair.  
As Steve points out, the PCSC had clear problems that won't be fixed by them 
"going ahead."  Seems like resignation to the fact is purposely ignoring our 
duties.  Maybe having "sparse" reccomendations is just another way of 
perpetuating the status quo.

Present proposals and I'll be willing to vote on their merits.

Robert Caldwell
Louisiana

>Liz writes:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Did we poop out or something?  Shall we start up the discussions again?
> > Steve, is there an update on our status?  I know it's summer and folks 
>are
> > on the go, but would like to see where we're at and what to do about
> > moving forward.
>
>I wasn't on the PCSC call on Tuesday, but it seems that PCSC members are
>basically tired of waiting on the working group, and started talking about
>the issues of whether or not to pre-mandate running a candidate in 2008,
>and how to start the exploratory process.
>
>The working group is supposed to sunset at Tulsa.  It looks to me like our
>final recommendations are going to be fairly sparse.
>
>Phil Huckelberry
>Illinois Green Party
>
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:31:26 -0400
>Subject: Re: [Pnp-wg] Hellooooo, is anybody home?
>From: Greg Gerritt <gerritt@mindspring.com>
>To: <Pnp-wg@gp-us.org>
>
>I would like to see us actually prpare what we are going to present in
>Tulsa.  Do we want to ask for an extension?  greg
>
> > From: "Elizabeth Arnone" <elizarnone@comcast.net>
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:32:53 -0400
> > To: <Pnp-wg@gp-us.org>
> > Subject: [Pnp-wg] Hellooooo, is anybody home?
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Did we poop out or something?  Shall we start up the discussions again?
> > Steve, is there an update on our status?  I know it's summer and folks 
>are on
> > the go, but would like to see where we're at and what to do about moving
> > forward.
> >
> > Liz
> >
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>Message: 4
>From: "Steve Greenfield" <bicyclesax@earthlink.net>
>To: <pnp-wg@gp-us.org>
>Subject: Re: [Pnp-wg] Hellooooo, is anybody home?
>Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:10:54 -0400
>
>From: "Phil Huckelberry" <phil@mcleancountygreens.org>
>To: <pnp-wg@gp-us.org>
>
>
> > I wasn't on the PCSC call on Tuesday, but it seems that PCSC members are
> > basically tired of waiting on the working group, and started talking 
>about
> > the issues of whether or not to pre-mandate running a candidate in 2008,
> > and how to start the exploratory process.
> >
> > The working group is supposed to sunset at Tulsa.  It looks to me like 
>our
> > final recommendations are going to be fairly sparse.
> >
> > Phil Huckelberry
> > Illinois Green Party
>
>That's only true if you want it to be. Even if we don't agree on 
>everything,
>or anything, we can still prepare a report of the various proposals we've
>considered, majority and minority reports, etc. Failure to consense doesn't
>mean failure in our mission. GPUS created this working group under a
>significant mandate to make recommendations to the National Committee in
>response to public reaction to the shortcomings of the PCSC. The PCSC has 
>no
>business being impatient with us, and if you are on that committee you
>should advise them of that.
>
>This is what happens when the same five people sit on every committee in
>GPUS.
>
>I have no intention of abandoning our assignment or the grassroots Greens
>who sent us to do it. A full and proper report will be issued.
>
>Steve Greenfield
>
>
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Thu,  9 Jun 2005 14:38:06 -0400
>From: kamva@allvantage.com
>To: pnp-wg@gp-us.org
>Subject: [Pnp-wg] Re: Hellooooo, is anybody home?
>
>I think an update on our next steps would be a good idea.
>
>Meanwhile, hope everyone will support the other working group (Strategic 
>Plan)
>and spread the word about taking the survey at www.gp.org/survey.
>
>Took about 20 minutes of my time.
>
>Peace,
>
>Kirit
>
>Quoting Elizabeth Arnone <elizarnone@comcast.net>:
> > Steve, is there an update on our status?  I know it's summer and folks 
>are on
> > the go, but would like to see where we're at and what to do about moving
> > forward.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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