[Pnp-wg] proposal

Charlie oldbogus@ris.net
Sat, 12 Mar 2005 18:03:19 -0700


OK. That didn't work; our list strips attachments. But I extracted the data 
on the website into a spreadsheet. If'n you want a copy, let me know.

Charlie

Charlie wrote:
> Attached.
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> Charlie
> 
> Forrest Hill wrote:
> 
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> This is a fair summary of the proposed approached, although it might 
>> be best if in step 2. states used a couple of methods (say local 
>> voting strength, the proportion of elected officials, and presidential 
>> voting strength) and then averaged these values together.
>>
>> I use percentages rather than numbers because that is really the only 
>> way to make direct comparisons between states. For example if in state 
>> A a total of 1,000,000 votes were cast for local candidates over a 4 
>> year period and in State B a total of 100,000 votes were casted, then  
>> we could conclude that State A has about 10 times as many Green 
>> members as State B (i.e. this is an indirect conclusion that assumes 
>> "membership is proportional" to voting strength). If the total number 
>> of votes cast for local candidates in all states is 10,000000, then we 
>> would assume that State A has 10% of the membership and State B has 1%.
>>
>> It is important to note that we don't know what the proportional 
>> relationship "is" between votes cast and membership size, so trying to 
>> estimate the number of members in a state from votes casted is rather 
>> futile (i.e. is it 1 member for every 10 votes, 20 votes, 22.7 votes. 
>> 2003 votes, etc?). In fact trying to estimate actual membership 
>> numbers based on voting strength is what has lead to the rather crazy 
>> delegate formulas used in the past.
>>
>> In terms of allotting delegates, once the membership percentage for 
>> each state is determined, all that is required is to multiply these 
>> percentages by the delegation size (which can be any size we deem 
>> appropriate). So in the case of State A and State B above, if the 
>> delegation size is 500, then State A would get 50 delegates (i.e. 10% 
>> of 500) and States B would get 5. If the delegation size is 1000, then 
>> State A would get 100 delegates and State B would get 10, etc.
>>
>> I hope that makes sense....
>>
>> Forrest
>>
>> p.s. Is there any simple way to download the election data on the GPUS 
>> web page into a spreadsheet. The way the data is presented right now 
>> makes it difficult to tabulate statistics -- Greg perhaps you know the 
>> answer to this question
>>