[Texgreen] Re: PLEASE WATCH - habeus corpus

Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:40:09 -0400

Joseph,

I might not have been as clear as I could.  I actually loved Olbermann's speech.
 I hope I made that clear.  I wouldn't have muted it or toned it down at all. 
Again I thought it was great.  What I was referring to when I said "spewing hate
and fear" I was actually referring to the other corporate media giants that also
have opinionated commentary from their anchors, but that don't always say things
I agree with.  Fox News being who I had in mind that "spews hate and fear".  I'm
sorry if I did not make that clear enough.  So I am torn when great speeches
come from the wrong place.  I love it when Olbermann does it, but I hate it when
O'Reily does it.  And it probably shouldn't be done at all from someone the
public is suppose to trust for unbiased news reporting.  Integrity in news
reporting is just the facts, in my opinion.  Commentary has no place but to draw
into question the network's fair and balanced reporting on all other reports.  

So having this view of commentary from news organizations, you can see how I am
torn when Olbermann gives such a tremendous speech calling attention to an
integral step in the erosion of this great country.    

Craig Miller

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---- On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Joseph Kaye (jkccnp@hotmail.com) wrote:

<html><div style='background-color:'>Rather than experiencing the words of
Olbermann about the threat and loss of removal of our constitutional protections
as "spewing hate and fear", I experience a person appropriately defining the
historical background of such acts. I hear the outrage, not hate, about such
shameless and violent acts as the signing of legislation to deny citizens the
precious freedoms, with no recourse. That deserves and calls for a response that
is bold, unafraid, AND ASSERTIVE. None of that is hate and fear. It is rather a
rightful assertion of a constitutional right that is approprioate. It is the
protest of a caring citizen speaking for the benefit of all freedom loving
perople. Yes it could be done in other ways, blandly, sanitized from emotion,
even machine like. 
 I Do not mistake such powerful expressions as hate. They are more the words
of one speaking with strength and courage. To confront the powerful and ruthless
ones who are commiting crimes against our very fundamental human needs for
civility and respect: respect fro the human need ot be free of coercion, to be
protected by our laws from those who would rob us of our inherited
constitutional rights to be free of unwarratned and wrongful acts of goevernment
agents: military, national security agency, CIA, local police, FBI, etc. etc.
Remember the "extraordinary renmditions"? Have you heard the stories and
testimony of even one who has suffered the torture that is now redefined as
acceprtable under the new legislation recently passed? Just one such tortured
victim is too many in my mind. That is indefensible no matter how you look at
it. Its ineffective. Its unlawful. Its a war 
crime. Its a violation of basicv human rights in a world where this is a
generally accepted wrongful act.
 No, I see a glmmer of hope when I see such a person in their rightful
role as a person giving news and its isignificance in a passionate way. To deny
this type of freedom of expression under the charge of being like those who
would deny us freedom is to mistake true patriotism for unlawful domination
efforts, "hate and fear".
 Thanks you for your carimng and comments. I respect your right to make
them, while I also respect my right to do likewise. We co after all still have
one way to communciate freely: the internet. For how long is unclear, for there
are those in our world who would want to do soemthing to limit that too. 
 I foe one am glad that has not yet happened, and I will be sure to vote
for thsoe who are committed to preserving this one way for us all to communcate
freely in our world.
Joseph Kaye 
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<texgreen@gp-us.org> Subject: [Texgreen] Re: PLEASE WATCH - habeus
corpus Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:59:29 -0400 Excellent
speech! Though it tears me, for where it comes from. Words this
nation needs to hear ... But why does this come only from a giant media
conglomerate? Commentary spouted at primetime not for the purpose
of conveying unbiased news and facts ... Entertainment purposes? To
engage and stir the viewer? For what purpose does the media spew, these
days? Fox news and CNN/CNBC continue the political battles of the Left
and Right. Powerful commentary from celebrity anchors who deliver the news.
Self righteous and self proclaimed experts of every topic; the norm these
days 
across television and cable channels. Speeches written by teams of writers.
To what end? For what purpose? Can we not digest the world correctly from
their portrayall of the facts? Or is it cheaper and easier for them to just
give us the conclusions, drawn up and pre-digested for us? Can they
not find life-long experts in the career field which is the topic
of discussion? Is there aversion to hard, back-breaking work to bring
about indepth, unbiased reports? Or has the temptation grown too large for
the for-profit corporate media machines to resist? Is media tired of viewing
from the sidelines? Is the power of influence too great? The temptation to
change a word here or splice there - the consequence is very real. And they
know the power to sway public opinion that they hold. The edit of rebuttal
... the art of semantics. Yet this is a 
paramount, ethical speech worthy of wide spread viewing. Strong words no
political leaders seem to speak. America's pacified public desperately needs
to hear of this country's course, and with authority. So it tears me
... I cautiously love to hear media commentary championing for civil
rights, justice, and equality. But dispize when it spews hatred and
fear. Right or wrong, the media giants have entered the ring. They are no
longer innocent bi-standers. I contend they always have been part of the
playing field. But like referees on a football field, they use to try to get
out of the way. Now they, with all their money and all their
influence, ARE the news. "Look at me, I have something to say" It's
political, it's opinionated, and it's wrong. But it's saying what so
desperately needs to be said ... these days of late. As the media 
Left has decided to be unabashed and vocal in countering the
media Right. This has become primetime news. We could fault
media for not pursuing facts with priority and sanctity. But we the public,
do not pursue peace and serenity, but desire the next big thing. A sequence
of increasingly arousing experiences. More sensational and dramatic than the
last. No wonder the world, our planetary condition, is beginning to emulate
this pursuit. Peace sells, but who's buying. Craig
Miller loveandrage@ureach.com ---- On Sun, 22 Oct 2006,
wrote: http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=7281005232779455137 When
you open the link hit the left arrow forward button at the bottom of the left
side of the screen to start this critical
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